Evidence for an ancient earth

[Guy Threepwood]

Go ahead and deliberately ignore all the experimental and observational evidence from cosmology for the uniformity of the laws of physics I posted in the OP.
Or...if you are inclined to do anythng other than air evidence free opinion, please point out why the exact match of elemental compositions from observed radiation of Microwave Background and the theoretical predictions using the laws of physics acting in the first few minutes of the Big Bang, is not decisive validation of uniformity. Make an argument with logic and evidence, I will ignore opinions.

"Go ahead and deliberately ignore all the experimental and observational evidence for the uniformity of the laws of physics"

so said all opponents of Einstein, Planck, Lemaitre and Galileo

 

[sayak83]

"Go ahead and deliberately ignore all the experimental and observational evidence for the uniformity of the laws of physics"

so said all opponents of Einstein, Planck, Lemaitre and Galileo

Gotcha, you got nothing. Bye.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Gotcha, you got nothing. Bye.

I think you may be afraid of being proven worng

 

[sayak83]

I think you may be afraid of being proven worng

I think you are afraid of typing anything other than evidence free opinions as you have realized how severely devoid of justifications your current beliefs truly are.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

I think you are afraid of typing anything other than evidence free opinions as you have realized how severely devoid of justifications your current beliefs truly are.

Gotcha, you said you were not going to respond to an opinion, and you just did, thus I proved you wrong

 

[sayak83]

Gotcha, you said you were not going to respond to an opinion, and you just did, thus I proved you wrong

I will continue to ignore all evidence free opinions regarding age of the earth.
Opinions about my psychological states will be robustly replied to.

 

[FearGod]

You believe it exist, so you are the one who first needs to prove your right, I have nothing to prove.

In this case your answer should be "I don't know if God does exist", but to say that God doesn't exist
then you have to prove it to us.

 

[psychoslice]

In this case your answer should be "I don't know if God does exist", but to say that God doesn't exist
then you have to prove it to us.

Well there has never been any god that has never been proved, so its highly likely he doesn't exist, its like trying to prove little fairies exist in your garden, how can you prove they don't, so that is what your saying. There is nothing wrong in admitting you just don't know, and just keep your faith in believing he does exist, and of course not to argue that he does exist, because then you make a fool out of yourself.

 

[FearGod]

Well there has never been any god that has never been proved, so its highly likely he doesn't exist, its like trying to prove little fairies exist in your garden, how can you prove they don't, so that is what your saying. There is nothing wrong in admitting you just don't know, and just keep your faith in believing he does exist, and of course not to argue that he does exist, because then you make a fool out of yourself.

And you think that you got it right and the others were wrong, what if God does really exist
or you're 100% sure that he doesn't.

 

[psychoslice]

And you think that you got it right and the others were wrong, what if God does really exist
or you're 100% sure that he doesn't.

Well you can't truly say he exist, because you cannot even prove it, you just live on hope, if he did exist I would give a piece of my mind, and tell him that he can't even run a brothel lol.

 

[FearGod]

Well you can't truly say he exist, because you cannot even prove it, you just live on hope, if he did exist I would give a piece of my mind, and tell him that he can't even run a brothel lol.

For me I have the proof which you blindly think of it as coincidences and you hope that God doesn't exist.

 

[shunyadragon]

For me I have the proof which you blindly think of it as coincidences and you hope that God doesn't exist.

First, this dialogue concerning the existence of God belongs in another thread. Arguing extremes of subjective 'beliefs' is like screaming through a sound proof wall.

What I do not see is anyone presenting a coherent argument against the overwhelming evidence, and the physics of thermodynamics that the earth, and our solar system is billions of years old. If no coherent contrary argument can be presented; case closed.

Actually there is a similar problem of Theists arguing for a world or regional flood that fits the Biblical account, as some Christians who believe in an old earth based on the evidence, but believe in the Biblical flood. The overwhelming evidence and the physics of thermodynamics of such an event clearly demonstrate it never happened.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Why would God have chosen any differently for his creative work?

Presupposing god, without a good reason to do so, is deliberately placing a filter onto everything that comes next.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

In this case your answer should be "I don't know if God does exist", but to say that God doesn't exist
then you have to prove it to us.

False. The default condition, is "god does not exist". This is the basic state, until (if ever) someone manages to dig up (or fabricate) some convincing proof that gods in general, are even possible-- let alone exist.

Extraordinary claims, such as "God Is This!" require very extraordinary proofs.

Claims stated without any proof at all (as in the case of all god-claims) may simply be dismissed as conjecture.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

And you think that you got it right and the others were wrong, what if God does really exist
or you're 100% sure that he doesn't.

Define what you mean-- exactly -- by the word "god".

I betcha I can find holes in your description that prove such a beast cannot exist.

You cannot have a square-circle, for example.

Another example:

A god who is all-powerful AND all-good cannot create evil.

If a this god cannot do some task? It is not all-powerful.

Thus? A god cannot be both all-powerful AND all-good. Such a beast cannot exist.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

For me I have the proof which you blindly think of it as coincidences and you hope that God doesn't exist.

Your proof may be safely dismissed as pure self-delusion. Since you cannot seem to muster any of it up...

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

what if God does really exist
.

What if the Flying Invisible Pink Unicorn really does exist? And what she hates the most? Are people who claim that the wrong god exists.

What if the Flying Spaghetti Monster really does exist? You are so going to FSM Hell for spreading your Heresy.

 

[FearGod]

First, this dialogue concerning the existence of God belongs in another thread. Arguing extremes of subjective 'beliefs' is like screaming through a sound proof wall.

What I do not see is anyone presenting a coherent argument against the overwhelming evidence, and the physics of thermodynamics that the earth, and our solar system is billions of years old. If no coherent contrary argument can be presented; case closed.

Actually there is a similar problem of Theists arguing for a world or regional flood that fits the Biblical account, as some Christians who believe in an old earth based on the evidence, but believe in the Biblical flood. The overwhelming evidence and the physics of thermodynamics of such an event clearly demonstrate it never happened.

I believe that the earth is billions of years old, it doesn't contradict with my belief and the flood wasn't a worldwide
flood but it was in the region of Noah's tribe.

 

[FearGod]

False. The default condition, is "god does not exist". This is the basic state, until (if ever) someone manages to dig up (or fabricate) some convincing proof that gods in general, are even possible-- let alone exist.

Extraordinary claims, such as "God Is This!" require very extraordinary proofs.

Claims stated without any proof at all (as in the case of all god-claims) may simply be dismissed as conjecture.

Prophecies to me is an enough proof added to the rational thinking except if we want to think of things as
happening due to coincidences.

 

[FearGod]

Define what you mean-- exactly -- by the word "god".

I betcha I can find holes in your description that prove such a beast cannot exist.

You cannot have a square-circle, for example.

Another example:

A god who is all-powerful AND all-good cannot create evil.

If a this god cannot do some task? It is not all-powerful.

Thus? A god cannot be both all-powerful AND all-good. Such a beast cannot exist.

Who said that God is always good and why he has to be so? a policeman is good even though that he
may kill some evil ones.