Evidence For And Against Evolution

[YoursTrue]

Let me ask you, why would you regret having done something if it wasn't a mistake.

regret
verb
us
/rɪˈɡret/
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to feel sorry or unhappy about something you did or were unable to do:​

mistake
noun
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/mɪˈsteɪk/
an action or decision that is wrong or produces a result that is not correct or not intended:​

Think god was happy that what he did was wrong?


Just as you don't buy into the idea of atheism, I don't buy the idea of free will, which means that any argument based on free will is meaningless to me.



What about stopping all the irrelevant tap dancing and focus on the issue? No need to answer. I know why: you can't. I have you stumped.

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Why don't you believe in free will?

 

[YoursTrue]

Let me ask you, why would you regret having done something if it wasn't a mistake.

regret
verb
us
/rɪˈɡret/
-tt-
to feel sorry or unhappy about something you did or were unable to do:​

mistake
noun
us
/mɪˈsteɪk/
an action or decision that is wrong or produces a result that is not correct or not intended:​

Think god was happy that what he did was wrong?


Just as you don't buy into the idea of atheism, I don't buy the idea of free will, which means that any argument based on free will is meaningless to me.



What about stopping all the irrelevant tap dancing and focus on the issue? No need to answer. I know why: you can't. I have you stumped.

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Mistake has nothing to do with the regret that God expressed. Since you don't believe in free will, that's another discussion. But since this is a discussion about evidence for or against evolution, if you believe in evolution, how do you figure free will or lack of free will fits into that concept?

 

[Skwim]

Do you believe in evolution?

I believe evolution is the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth.

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Why don't you believe in free will?

I have excellent grounds for dismissing it, which I've summarized HERE

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[Subduction Zone]

You're correct in that you know I don't believe that life came about without divine origination (or by itself, as a saying might go). The origination of life can be different than evolution. What do you think?

There is no evidence for this. In fact all of the evidence supports evolution. Where did that evidence come from? Are you saying that God is a liar?

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't have to be a believer to be able to follow it, better that you seem to be able to. And that is a sad state of affairs when an atheist is more "Christian" than a Christian. And no, I have never heard of the two, but they may be mistaken. Let me do a search on them and their work. If they argue against abiogenesis the odds are huge that their science is decades out of date.

So everything one says is a matter of opinions in reference to the evolution genetically of one's mind. Is that true? Does the mind come into the picture with evolution? Can the mind/evolution be wrong? Further, if anyone's science is decades out of date, and evidence proving to later scientists the untruthfulness of the previous science, perhaps more discoveries will prove that the present concept of evolution is not true.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It was included. So again, aside from the fact that gorillas and chimpanzees share 98-99% of the DNA with humans, what is the common ancestor of all three?

An earlier existing species of apes.

 

[YoursTrue]

I believe evolution is the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth.

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I have excellent grounds for dismissing it, which I've summarized HERE

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OK, thank you for expressing your opinion.

 

[YoursTrue]

An earlier existing species of apes.

But it is no longer around to be tested, is that it?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So everything one says is a matter of opinions in reference to the evolution genetically of one's mind. Is that true? Does the mind come into the picture with evolution? Can the mind/evolution be wrong? Further, if anyone's science is decades out of date, and evidence proving to later scientists the untruthfulness of the previous science, perhaps more discoveries will prove that the present concept of evolution is not true.

I checked out your authors and they seem to be trying to claim that though life may be common intelligent life may be very rare. They could be correct on that. They do not oppose evolution in any way at all. The book is way off tpoic.

 

[YoursTrue]

There is no evidence for this. In fact all of the evidence supports evolution. Where did that evidence come from? Are you saying that God is a liar?

LOL, there we go again. Since you keep bringing God into the picture, why would you say that God is involved with artifacts and fossil dating?

 

[Subduction Zone]

But it is no longer around to be tested, is that it?

It is around in the form of humans, chimps, and gorillas. It did not go extinct, it changed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL, there we go again. Since you keep bringing God into the picture, why would you say that God is involved with artifacts and fossil dating?

Your objection to reality is based upon your religious beliefs. I am not the one bringing God into the picture.

And I did not say That God is involved. You seem to think that he kies.

 

[YoursTrue]

I checked out your authors and they seem to be trying to claim that though life may be common intelligent life may be very rare. They could be correct on that. They do not oppose evolution in any way at all. The book is way off tpoic.

No, it's not. It's fascinating and makes sense. And it's beautifully written. I notice so far that they do not oppose evolution, and so for your part, that's good. But they do make a rather strong case about the absolute uniqueness of life on this planet. And it's not way off topic. Meantime, yes, I have been thinking that if life in the form of evolution exists anywhere else in the universe, still it is not particularly possible for men so far to live without oxygen masks once leaving the earth's atmosphere.

 

[YoursTrue]

It is around in the form of humans, chimps, and gorillas. It did not go extinct, it changed.

Well, I must say, that's the first big laugh I really had from your answers. The other ones were just little ones. So the chart is really one big form of apes and humans coming from themselves. Is that right? But of course, the genes are not quite the same, and yet humans (it seems you're saying) did not evolve from any one of those great apes. That's almost like someone told me today how her mother and father are living within her, even though they died.

 

[YoursTrue]

Your objection to reality is based upon your religious beliefs. I am not the one bringing God into the picture.

And I did not say That God is involved. You seem to think that he kies.

Again, you talk about lying? Why would you keep saying in an oblique way, that God is telling the truth with evolution and fossils? You keep mentioning things you have learned about God in the Bible, saying that there are fables in the Bible, then you say I'm breaking one of God's commandments. Then you imply that God leaves evidence supporting evolution in the way of fossils. I'm beginning to think you are joking and not being truthful in your replies. Oh well.
Maybe, since we are both related as you believe in the genetic human family, you are talking about yourself as in the same evolutionary family of genetic similarities. So yes, you bring God into the picture by continually accusing me of breaking one of God's commandments, and by bringing up what you don't believe in about God. And by implying that God left evidence of evolution with fossils.
Well, anyway, thanks, it's been interesting.

 

[YoursTrue]

Your objection to reality is based upon your religious beliefs. I am not the one bringing God into the picture.

And I did not say That God is involved. You seem to think that he kies.

The reality is not the surmise that because gorillas, for example, share 98% of human DNA, they evolved from a common ape ancestor.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, it's not. It's fascinating and makes sense. And it's beautifully written. I notice so far that they do not oppose evolution, and so for your part, that's good. But they do make a rather strong case about the absolute uniqueness of life on this planet. And it's not way off topic. Meantime, yes, I have been thinking that if life in the form of evolution exists anywhere else in the universe, still it is not particularly possible for men so far to live without oxygen masks once leaving the earth's atmosphere.

of course it is . The topic here is evidence for And against evolution. That book had no evidence against evolution. And it appears that they accepted evolution, but did not spend too much supporting the concept.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The reality is not the surmise that because gorillas, for example, share 98% of human DNA, they evolved from a common ape ancestor.

there you go breaking the Ninth again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Again, you talk about lying? Why would you keep saying in an oblique way, that God is telling the truth with evolution and fossils? You keep mentioning things you have learned about God in the Bible, saying that there are fables in the Bible, then you say I'm breaking one of God's commandments. Then you imply that God leaves evidence supporting evolution in the way of fossils. I'm beginning to think you are joking and not being truthful in your replies. Oh well.
Maybe, since we are both related as you believe in the genetic human family, you are talking about yourself as in the same evolutionary family of genetic similarities. So yes, you bring God into the picture by continually accusing me of breaking one of God's commandments, and by bringing up what you don't believe in about God. And by implying that God left evidence of evolution with fossils.
Well, anyway, thanks, it's been interesting.

Because it appears to be impossible to honestly oppose the theory. You lost your ability to be honest when you could not admit to the obvious and could not support your denial. And no, you oppose evolution because of your belief in God. Now you are accusing others of your sins.

 

[Valjean]

Nope, I'm not trolling. You're quick to make allegations, aren't you. So what is a population? All species?

A population is a community or group of a single species.