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Evidence For And Against Evolution

dad

dad

Undefeated
Valjean said:
As usual you have it backward. The evidence came first, the interpretation came later.
Science follows evidence.

Seriously, it's a mystery to me how anyone could be unaware of at least some of the evidences of evolution.
The flat-Earthers make a stronger case.

: What's your evidence for magic poofing?
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There is NO evidence for your supposed shared ancestor with a flatworm. Offer one piece of evidence? Ha
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Mestemia said:
You were asked to present evidence.
Why have you not done so?
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So you refuse/cannot offer evidence for the shared ancestor for man and flatworms.Therefore your claims stand exposed as beliefs. As for evidence of spiritual things like God or creation, we would expect spiritual evidences! That is beyond science. The disciples of the evo religion do not accept anything spiritual, so they are blind to the world of evidences God gave us. Do not try to use the blindness of science to all things spiritual as some excuse to not need to support scientific claims. Be honest.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
dad said:
So you refuse/cannot offer evidence for the shared ancestor for man and flatworms.Therefore your claims stand exposed as beliefs. As for evidence of spiritual things like God or creation, we would expect spiritual evidences! That is beyond science. The disciples of the evo religion do not accept anything spiritual, so they are blind to the world of evidences God gave us. Do not try to use the blindness of science to all things spiritual as some excuse to not need to support scientific claims. Be honest.
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I (and others) gave you that evidence months ago.
And here you are still, pretending like you've never seen it.
Boy oh boy, some things never change.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
dad said:
So you refuse/cannot offer evidence for the shared ancestor for man and flatworms.Therefore your claims stand exposed as beliefs. As for evidence of spiritual things like God or creation, we would expect spiritual evidences! That is beyond science. The disciples of the evo religion do not accept anything spiritual, so they are blind to the world of evidences God gave us. Do not try to use the blindness of science to all things spiritual as some excuse to not need to support scientific claims. Be honest.
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This is nothing more that double speak.
And bad double speak at that.

You demand from others that which you yourself refuse/can not provide.

How do you expect to be taken seriously?
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
dad said:
So you refuse/cannot offer evidence for the shared ancestor for man and flatworms.Therefore your claims stand exposed as beliefs. As for evidence of spiritual things like God or creation, we would expect spiritual evidences! That is beyond science. The disciples of the evo religion do not accept anything spiritual, so they are blind to the world of evidences God gave us. Do not try to use the blindness of science to all things spiritual as some excuse to not need to support scientific claims. Be honest.
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dad

dad

Undefeated
ratiocinator said:
Yet again: Evidence of common descent - Wikipedia .
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The first bit of supposed evidence I saw in your article was about DNA. You need to prove nature was the same back in the days of Noah if you want to try to link modern DNA with that time. Good luck with that! You have re-lig-gion.

What's spiritual evidence and how do we test it?
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Evidences of God permeate society and history, such as the witnessed rising of Jesus from the dead. Anyone that honesty calls out to Jesus will find out and be able to do what science can never do..know.

Jn 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Mestemia said:
This is nothing more that double speak.
And bad double speak at that.

You demand from others that which you yourself refuse/can not provide.

How do you expect to be taken seriously?
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The theory of evolution does include a claim you share an ancestor with many creatures including the flatworm actually. Calling the obvious 'doublespeak' is a weak way to try to cover a total inability to defend your religion.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
dad said:
The theory of evolution does include a claim you share an ancestor with many creatures including the flatworm actually. Calling the obvious 'doublespeak' is a weak way to try to cover a total inability to defend your religion.
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Rather difficult to have a serious conversation with you, seeing as you are either unwilling or unable to learn.
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
dad said:
The first bit of supposed evidence I saw in your article was about DNA. You need to prove nature was the same back in the days of Noah if you want to try to link modern DNA with that time. Good luck with that!
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No we don't. Do you actually understand how evidence works? If you want to challenge the evidence from multiple different sources, you'll have to come up with an alternative hypothesis or try to falsify the current theory. Of course, there is one obvious alternative: god went to a great deal of effort to deceive us.

dad said:
You have re-lig-gion.
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You clearly do. Do you think it's a good or a bad thing to have?

dad said:
Evidences of God permeate society and history, such as the witnessed rising of Jesus from the dead.
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Apart from the fact that eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable, history (and modern times, for that matter) is riddled with fantastical claims and they can't all be true because they contradict each other.

dad said:
Anyone that honesty calls out to Jesus will find out and be able to do what science can never do..know.
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Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, got better when I grew up.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
ratiocinator said:
No we don't. Do you actually understand how evidence works? If you want to challenge the evidence from multiple different sources, you'll have to come up with an alternative hypothesis or try to falsify the current theory. Of course, there is one obvious alternative: god went to a great deal of effort to deceive us.
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Yes you do or you can keep you beliefs. Period. Evermore.

You clearly do. Do you think it's a good or a bad thing to have?
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When posed as science BAD.

Apart from the fact that eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable, history (and modern times, for that matter) is riddled with fantastical claims and they can't all be true because they contradict each other.
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Sorry, Real witnesses are great. Still use that in courts you know.
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
dad said:
Yes you do or you can keep you beliefs.
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Why haven't you then? The evidence for evolution is overwhelming and all you've offered is rather silly foot-stamping.

dad said:
When posed as science BAD.
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Doesn't really answer the question. You are basing your beliefs on blind faith (religion) and you seem to want to accuse others of doing the same (even when they aren't). Is your blind faith good or bad? If it's good, then how do the rest of us decide whose blind faith is true?

dad said:
Sorry, Real witnesses are great.
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No. Doubly so when they're definitely long dead and possibly fictional.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
ratiocinator said:
Why haven't you then? The evidence for evolution is overwhelming and all you've offered is rather silly foot-stamping.
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If that were true you could post one single piece here. Funny that.
Doesn't really answer the question. You are basing your beliefs on blind faith (religion) and you seem to want to accuse others of doing the same (even when they aren't).
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Don't worry about what others base beliefs on. Worry about your beliefs that have no basis.
Is your blind faith good or bad? If it's good, then how do the rest of us decide whose blind faith is true?
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Don't project your blind faith to others. My faith is built on a rock.
No. Doubly so when they're definitely long dead and possibly fictional.
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Delusional.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
dad said:
To be serious about defending your religion you need to post one piece of evidence for it. Simple.
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thank you for further demonstrating my point.

Now since you have done nothing but ignore all the evidence presented to you, why would I waste my time trying to convince someone who has no desire to learn?

The really weird thing about it is that you seem to be awfully proud of your willful ignorance.
Almost as though you think it some kind of ace in the hole.

Being so blissful probably has its advantages I suppose, but it is not something I understand.

Oh yeah, STILL waiting for you to present your evidence.
I hope you don't think that your crude neanderthalian attempts at distraction have worked.
 
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