Evidences given for a young-earth

[Dan From Smithville]

And what exactly do you think this zircon proves?

That she can google.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Why can't you guys ever be specific?

Why can't you support your claims?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You don't care to find out for yourself. What would providing links do other than
for you to change the subject?
Google "Hadean Zircon" This was the breakthrough which helped scientists to
understand that the "Headean" (from Hades, hell) wasn't a lava world very long.
Many Headean minerals formed not in molten rock but on ancient sea floors.

Your text here even refutes your own claims. Classic.

 

[PruePhillip]

Can you give a link to its source, please?

I actually got this image from Google images.
Typed in something like "first ocean early earth"

 

[PruePhillip]

I think that it is more likely that people in Lower Mesopotamia saw how the rivers Tigris and Euphrates deposited sediments and formed deltas, and then, as sediments accumulated, plants colonised the deltas and mudflats, to be followed by animals, and that the people based their creation myth on these observations. This seems a more plausible interpretation of Genesis 1:9-12 than your suggestion that the authors of Genesis understood the process of formation of continents by subduction and differentiation of igneous rocks.

Many rocky planets are thought to be "water worlds."
But in earth's case this water stimulated sea floor spreading
and subduction - vast chunks of the crust were pushed deep
down - lubricated by water. These rocks were changed into
the lighter granite which "floats" on the denser basalt. This
is your continental crust.

 

[PruePhillip]

There is no "if". Other than that "if" you think those are the principles of
Christianity, you dont know the principles of Christianity.
Try google, or a compassionate local preacher.

No, try reading the source texts.
Particularly the Gospels, Acts and the Epistles.
Here we see there was no:
priest
temple
physical altar
holy days
legalism
ritual law
animal sacrifice
etc

Certainly Christians weren't all poor - we read of many
wealthy ones, including Mary and Martha, Zachius, Paul,
Nicodemus, the Centurion etc.. But there are no wealthy
preachers - in fact, like Jesus, they possessed mostly
just the clothes on their back, having left everything behind
them, and relying upon their faith in God to provide.

 

[PruePhillip]

I have explained this before. When the Earth was first formed (about 4.54 billion years ago), it was not oceanic; the first oceans did not develop until about 4.2-4.3 billion years ago. It is very unlikely that the early Earth was dark. The Sun had already formed, and even very thick clouds don't blot out the sunlight.

Look, I live in Britain, at 52° north; it is December, three days before the winter solstice, so that the Sun's altitude at noon was was only 14.5°; the sky is completely overcast and it is raining, and yet it is daylight, and I can see buildings and trees, and I can see colours. Do you think that 4.5 billion years ago the Sun didn't exist or that the cloud blanket over the whole Earth was so much thicker than on a winter day in Britain that the Earth was completely dark?

Venus has a much denser cloud blanket than the Earth, and yet the Russian scientists who sent the Venera probes found that the surface illumination was similar to that on a cloudy day in Moscow; they even put cameras on the later Venera landers to take photographs of the surface of the planet. If the surface of even cloud-covered Venus is light enough for photography to be possible, why do you think that the early Earth had to be dark?

:"let there be light" can be subjective. I take this light business to
mean direct sunshine.
And cameras were designed for supposed light levels.
Earth didn't just had a haze, it had trillions of tons of aerosols
being pumped into the atmosphere every day.

The earliest earth wasn't even lava, it was dust and rock slowly
coming together. Genesis just says God made the earth, but on
"day one" we are transported to this earth and shown a snapshot
of it - and it wasn't "earth" but ocean.

 

[Audie]

No, try reading the source texts.
Particularly the Gospels, Acts and the Epistles.
Here we see there was no:
priest
temple
physical altar
holy days
legalism
ritual law
animal sacrifice
etc

Certainly Christians weren't all poor - we read of many
wealthy ones, including Mary and Martha, Zachius, Paul,
Nicodemus, the Centurion etc.. But there are no wealthy
preachers - in fact, like Jesus, they possessed mostly
just the clothes on their back, having left everything behind
them, and relying upon their faith in God to provide.

Five a.m. and I am up looking at this.
Oh well.

Your list has little to nothing to do with the principles
of the religion.

Ever hear of these?

Search Results
Featured snippet from the web
Its main points include:

• Belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit.
• The death, descent into hell, resurrection and ascension of Christ.
• The holiness of the Church and the communion of saints.
• Christ's second coming, the Day of Judgement and salvation of the faithful.

 

[gnostic]

Do you think life originated in outer space?

Life in space?

No.

But organic matters can exist and survive in space.

Do not confuse life and organic matters. Organic matters can exist on its own, without being alive.

Some meteorites were found to contain amino acids, eg the large Murchison meteorite that crashed near the town of Murchison, Victoria, Australia, in 1969, showed evidence that over a number of different types (chains) of amino acids, as well as evidence of water and other carbon compounds.

Some chains of amino acids are found naturally, in all life, because they are essential components of proteins. And proteins are essential organic matters.

To actually find any meteorite containing amino acids, have kick-opened the door to Abiogenesis study, that these meteors that have crashed on young Earth, and may have started life on Earth.

I’ve said and used the word “may”.

The studies of Abiogenesis hypothesis is ongoing, and scientists haven’t yet concluded which versions or models of the hypothesis is the accepted version.

 

[PruePhillip]

Life in space?

No.

But organic matters can exist and survive in space.

Do not confuse life and organic matters. Organic matters can exist on its own, without being alive.

Some meteorites were found to contain amino acids, eg the large Murchison meteorite that crashed near the town of Murchison, Victoria, Australia, in 1969, showed evidence that over a number of different types (chains) of amino acids, as well as evidence of water and other carbon compounds.

Some chains of amino acids are found naturally, in all life, because they are essential components of proteins. And proteins are essential organic matters.

To actually find any meteorite containing amino acids, have kick-opened the door to Abiogenesis study, that these meteors that have crashed on young Earth, and may have started life on Earth.

I’ve said and used the word “may”.

The studies of Abiogenesis hypothesis is ongoing, and scientists haven’t yet concluded which versions or models of the hypothesis is the accepted version.

Yes, I know Murchison. It's a near miracle that this particular meteorite happened to
land where someone knew what to do - seal the icy body and put it in a refrigerator!!!
It's amazing that for all the years since Urey Miller (1952) we aren't much closer to
understanding how life actually kick started.

 

[PruePhillip]

Five a.m. and I am up looking at this.
Oh well.

Your list has little to nothing to do with the principles
of the religion.

Ever hear of these?

Search Results
Featured snippet from the web
Its main points include:

• Belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit.
• The death, descent into hell, resurrection and ascension of Christ.
• The holiness of the Church and the communion of saints.
• Christ's second coming, the Day of Judgement and salvation of the faithful.

Sure, but not so sure about the "holiness of the church" and this "communion of
the saints."
I take this list with all seriousness. It's the commandment and example of Jesus.

 

[Audie]

Sure, but not so sure about the "holiness of the church" and this "communion of
the saints."
I take this list with all seriousness. It's the commandment and example of Jesus.

You just now first saw the principles of your church.
But you are not sure about them.

 

[PruePhillip]

You just now first saw the principles of your church.
But you are not sure about them.

My wrong. I can see my statement is ambiguous.
The principles I listed above are not "my" church but those of the
New Testament church.
I am not sure about "communion with the saints" I know in the
Greek Orthodox tradition the "saints" appear in the paintings
during church services.
(which are supposedly of themselves but appear most as Anglo
Saxon warrior men)
All of this would be worse than arrant nonsense to the Apostolic
Church - it would be in the tradition of the Pharisees.