Evil God

[Boiled Brain]

Yeah He loves them. According to my Church's beliefs, they'll be resurrected right along with us people. And I'm glad, 'cause if I couldn't have my animals in Heaven, I'd want to be where they were.

Kittens are your idel. You love them more than you love god. It's a sin
Why do you love god who made kittens suffer and killed them? Why do you blame sadists who torment kittens and love someone who does the same?

 

[+Xausted]

Kittens are your idel. You love them more than you love god. It's a sin
Why do you love god who made kittens suffer and killed them? Why do you blame sadists who torment kittens and love someone who does the same?

Why do people feel the need to question agressively other peoples beliefs?:cover:

 

[Boiled Brain]

I am not one to play semantics , however I really believe you should go back and read your post! You can not on one hand say that God doesnt exist, then on the next say that He killed innocent people.
Please just clarify were you stand, otherwise there can be no meaningful discussion

OK, I see you really don't understand.
Try to read the bible. Did he kill people (in the bible)? Yes.
Do I believe in god? No.
Where is the contradiction?

 

[Katzpur]

Kittens are your idel. You love them more than you love god. It's a sin
Why do you love god who made kittens suffer and killed them? Why do you blame sadists who torment kittens and love someone who does the same?

Why don't you go find somewhere else to play?

 

[+Xausted]

OK, I see you really don't understand.
Try to read the bible. Did he kill people (in the bible)? Yes.
Do I believe in god? No.
Where is the contradiction?

* Big sigh

You are sitting on the fence.
You can not quote the Bible and say that He killed people if you do not believe He does not exist. That is what controdicts itself.

Have I read my Bible? Er, theology student speaking here! (may I suggest you aquaint yourself with RF properly as it is in my profile. All discussion is gladly accepted however you need to do it a bit less argumentively in order for it to be a discussion and not just a rant!)

 

[Boiled Brain]

Why do people feel the need to question agressively other peoples beliefs?:cover:

I'm just interested.
There is no agression.
Why do people (who believe in god) make other people believe too? Otherwise they want to kill those who don't believe.

 

[Dunemeister]

OK, I see you really don't understand.
Try to read the bible. Did he kill people (in the bible)? Yes.
Do I believe in god? No.
Where is the contradiction?

Contradiction's probably not the right word. I think he's trying to say that you're being disingenuous. You don't actually believe in any god, (so the argument runs) so you shouldn't have any particular ethical objection to the portrayal of a god doing things such as we see in scripture.

+Xausted needs to realize that you're pointing up what you see as an internal inconsistency for those who hold faith with the god described in the bible. On the one hand, such people believe their god is good, but you're pointing out how that characterization isn't consistent with what we see that god doing in the bible. By complaining that you're being disingenuous, +Xausted is avoiding the argument.

 

[Dunemeister]

Why do people (who believe in god) make other people believe too? Otherwise they want to kill those who don't believe.

One straw man deserves another?

 

[+Xausted]

I'm just interested.
There is no agression.
Why do people (who believe in god) make other people believe too? Otherwise they want to kill those who don't believe.

My mother believes and I dont. I am hopeful that she doesnt want to kill me!

 

[Katzpur]

I'm just interested.
There is no agression.
Why do people (who believe in god) make other people believe too? Otherwise they want to kill those who don't believe.

Nobody here wants to kill you. Are you paranoid schizophrenic or something?

 

[gnomon]

I'm just interested.
There is no agression.
Why do people (who believe in god) make other people believe too? Otherwise they want to kill those who don't believe.

Why do people who eat babies want to build a house out of pop tarts?

 

[+Xausted]

Contradiction's probably not the right word. I think he's trying to say that you're being disingenuous. You don't actually believe in any god, (so the argument runs) so you shouldn't have any particular ethical objection to the portrayal of a god doing things such as we see in scripture.

+Xausted needs to realize that you're pointing up what you see as an internal inconsistency for those who hold faith with the god described in the bible. On the one hand, such people believe their god is good, but you're pointing out how that characterization isn't consistent with what we see that god doing in the bible. By complaining that you're being disingenuous, +Xausted is avoiding the argument.

Nope!
Try again
You should know that I do not play semantics, as it is a personnal bug bear of mine. I am just pointing out the fundalmental problem with this arguement.
And as Re advice to Boiled Brain, check user profile...I am not a He!

 

[Boiled Brain]

* Big sigh

You are sitting on the fence.
You can not quote the Bible and say that He killed people if you do not believe He does not exist. That is what controdicts itself.

I just ask christians why they love god who kill innocent people. There is no any contradiction.

Have I read my Bible? Er, theology student speaking here! (may I suggest you aquaint yourself with RF properly as it is in my profile.

Theology student?
I pity you. You spent many years of your life reading tales of ancient illiterate cattlebreeder:sorry1:

 

[+Xausted]

I just ask christians why they love god who kill innocent people. There is no any contradiction.


Theology student?
I pity you. You spent many years of your life reading tales of ancient illiterate cattlebreeder:sorry1:

Arh, now that is better worded! that isnt quite what you said, however I am glad you managed to put it more coherently now.
Pity me? Again you show your ignorance of what theology is about. I suggest you look up the module guide for universities in England to find out what we actually study, and not what you presume we do. And your tone is not open for an adult, rational discussion, so I think I will leave this thread alone for a bit until you can maybe stop attacking people, when so ill informed.
Good day

 

[Boiled Brain]

Nobody here wants to kill you.

What if god'd said you "kill him" would you kill me? I'm not crazy, it's just a question

Are you paranoid schizophrenic or something?

Christian love and tolerance in action:clap

 

[Boiled Brain]

Pity me? Again you show your ignorance of what theology is about.

Theology is about some invisible magic man (shortly saying).

And your tone is not open for an adult, rational discussion, so I think I will leave this thread alone for a bit until you can maybe stop attacking people, when so ill informed.
Good day

Retreat accepted

 

[spiritually inclined]

Jehovah ordered jews to kill innocent canaan women and children. Why christians love this evil god and justify his cruel business

This is an image of god created by ancient people. Humans wrote the Bible. It isn't surprising that the darker side of our nature shows up in it, especially in ancient texts. I look to the Bible for truth and insight, not ultimate truth. I do not believe in such a god.

I'm as confused as the next guy about God's apparent command to wipe out whole cultures, but we have to admit that, just as we are free to dispose of a colony of rats that are destroying our garden, God is free to destroy a culture that is destroying his creation. I don't suggest that this fully explains things (or justifies them, to use your term), but it's certainly part of it.

Comparing the murder of infants to a human killing rats destroying a garden strikes me as a bit insensitive to the value of life. If God is omnipotent, why not spare the innocent this suffering?

James

 

[3.14]

might be a bit offtopic but did god claim anywhere in the bible that he would never kill people?

 

[Boiled Brain]

might be a bit offtopic but did god claim anywhere in the bible that he would never kill people?

As I remember, he didn't.

 

[Katzpur]

Christian love and tolerance in action:clap

Just an observation on my part, actually. You said that Christians want to kill everybody who doesn't agree with them. That doesn't sound like a particularly rational thought to me.