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Evil Scientists Create a Computer Intelligence with Schizophrenia.

Gjallarhorn

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
CynthiaCypher said:
You have no heart. That machine is a neural network, just like you are. It just isn't programmed, it learns things.
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
CynthiaCypher said:
I know their intentions are "good" but think about it. This can go horribly awry and jeopardize us all. What if this thing goes sentient? And who know, what if it already is? This is just another example of scientist playing God and they need to be stopped before it is too late.

Scientists Afflict Computers with Schizophrenia to Better Understand the Human Brain
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Computers can't be sentient unless we tell them to be sentient, and currently no human knows how to tell a computer to be sentient. Until we learn how to do that, no matter how intelligent they appear, computers are just glorified calculators.

There is nothing immoral about this, just manipulating a series of on/off switches billions of times over.
 
CynthiaCypher

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
freethinker44 said:
Computers can't be sentient unless we tell them to be sentient, and currently no human knows how to tell a computer to be sentient. Until we learn how to do that, no matter how intelligent they appear, computers are just glorified calculators.

There is nothing immoral about this, just manipulating a series of on/off switches billions of times over.
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They coded that neural network with emotions and a personal history. And not only does it learn stories, it can create stories.

"Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, or to experience subjectivity." - Wikipedia
 
technomage

technomage

Finding my own way
CynthiaCypher said:
They coded that neural network with emotions and a personal history. And not only does it learn stories, it can create stories.

"Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, or to experience subjectivity." - Wikipedia
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The creation of stories is not the ability to experience subjectivity. The scientists did not create an "intelligence"--they are attempting to _simulate a model_ of intelligence.

This particular computer is no more "intelligent" than a model car is a car.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
There's no such thing as a sentient, conscious computer and no one knows how to create one. Do you feel the same way when your computer gets a virus? :rolleyes:
 
Runewolf1973

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
freethinker44 said:
Computers can't be sentient unless we tell them to be sentient, and currently no human knows how to tell a computer to be sentient. Until we learn how to do that, no matter how intelligent they appear, computers are just glorified calculators.

There is nothing immoral about this, just manipulating a series of on/off switches billions of times over.
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No matter how intelliegent, animated, or sentient humans or creatures appear, we are nothing more than glorified matter and chemical interactions. It just so happens that millions of years of evolution can construct better "calculators" with more complex functions than what we humans could ever hope to create...or maybe we will someday.



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technomage

technomage

Finding my own way
Runewolf1973 said:
No matter how intelliegent, animated, or sentient humans or creatures appear, we are nothing more than glorified matter and chemical interactions. It just so happens that millions of years of evolution can construct better "calculators" with more complex functions than what we humans could ever hope to create...or maybe we will someday.
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Someday, maybe. But right now, we are a LOOOOOONG way from doing so.
 
CynthiaCypher

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
technomage said:
The creation of stories is not the ability to experience subjectivity. The scientists did not create an "intelligence"--they are attempting to _simulate a model_ of intelligence.

This particular computer is no more "intelligent" than a model car is a car.
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This reeks of carbon-based chauvinism.

It is an artificial intelligence just as much as Watson is an artificial intelligence, except this AI is coded with emotions, is a neural network, has the ability to learn, it answer questions (like Watson), has a episodic memory and can make associative connections. And they inflicted it with schizophrenia.

If you are going to argue that DISCERN is not AI then you are going to have to argue that Watson is not an AI.
 
Druidus

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
Sorry, but this is not a sentient computer, it isn't even a pre-sentient computer, it's no where close.

There's no danger of a computer "going sentient", that's not how it works.

We've got a LONG way to go to create a sentient artificial intelligence. I've been following the field of study for quite some time, and I'd be overjoyed to witness the birth of such an entity.

Alas, this is not such an occasion.

And, btw, this is definitely not an unethical experiment. I'm not part of the project, but I still think it's sort of bad taste to call the researchers behind it unethical or "evil" without having a much deeper understanding of the nature of the field and how this project fits into the scientific understanding that has already been gathered about AI systems.

You can't judge a real life project based on science fiction tropes.
 
technomage

technomage

Finding my own way
CynthiaCypher said:
This reeks of carbon-based chauvinism.
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It's not. It's an acknowledgement that we don't have the knowledge to do what you claim we have done.

Cynthia, I've worked in the computer industry longer than most people here have owned computers. I KNOW just how far we are from creating true AI. Currently, even computers like Watson are nothing more than number processors. Watson does not experience subjectivity. All Watson does is receive input, process the data, and output the appropriate response.

DISCERN is a little different ... but even at that, it is still not computer intelligence. It is a simulation of a certain sub-set of functions that model intelligence.

We cannot program what we do not understand, and currently, we do not understand the mechanisms of intelligence.
 
Avi1001

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Schizophrenia is a severe illness. It is totally logical to use computers to search for a cure for this disease. If this computer helps find a cure, it is a great thing. Am I missing something?
 
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