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Evolution a theory in Crisis

Just a simple question has anyone read the book?

Evolution: A Theory in Crisis

by Micheal Denton. It is a real classic i brought and read it last week.

This is not a creationist book, the book was written by a chap who is not even religious. Even atheists and agnostics are questioning the theory of evolution and seeing the problems with it!!
 

Gunfingers

Happiness Incarnate
Remember the last time you came up with a book you'd read and claimed it disproved evolution? Remember how i just found an article written by a professional in the field explaining how the book was bunk?

Why don't you save us both some effort next time and just look up a professional review of the book you're thinking about reading. That saves me the effort of reading reviews of books i don't care about and it clears up your reading schedule for Dan Brown novels

Anyway, here ya go.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Just a simple question has anyone read the book?

Evolution: A Theory in Crisis

by Micheal Denton. It is a real classic i brought and read it last week.

This is not a creationist book, the book was written by a chap who is not even religious. Even atheists and agnostics are questioning the theory of evolution and seeing the problems with it!!
Actually it was produced by a former member of the Discovery Institute... a creationist organization... making it very definitely a creationist book written by a creationist.

I suppose some of his arguments may look convincing if you don't bother to fact check them... Just a quick examination however reviles why this book is widely lampooned by those who actually looked into it.

wa:do
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Just a simple question has anyone read the book?

Evolution: A Theory in Crisis

by Micheal Denton. It is a real classic i brought and read it last week.

This is not a creationist book, the book was written by a chap who is not even religious. Even atheists and agnostics are questioning the theory of evolution and seeing the problems with it!!

How many people did you expect to dupe with this? There are no problems with evolution. It doesn't matter who you say is questioning it, we all know it's only questioned by people who don't want to accept reality.

I'd say "nice try", but it wasn't even that.
 
Actually it was produced by a former member of the Discovery Institute... a creationist organization... making it very definitely a creationist book written by a creationist.

Michael Denton has never been a creationist and he has not been a member of the discovery institute for a very long time. Discovery institute does publish alot of creationist articles but the organisation is not only for creationists it is open to anybody who wants to question the theory of evolution.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Michael Denton has never been a creationist and he has not been a member of the discovery institute for a very long time. Discovery institute does publish alot of creationist articles but the organisation is not only for creationists it is open to anybody who wants to question the theory of evolution.

Honesty is the best policy.

Michael Denton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In his book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (1985), Denton questioned the validity of neo-Darwinism and argued that evidence of design exists in nature. The book was instrumental in starting the Intelligent Design movement.[2] Denton was an influential proponent of Intelligent Design and was a former Senior Fellow of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, hub of the Intelligent Design movement.[3]
 
Honesty is the best policy.

Michael Denton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Intelligent design and Creationism are not the same thing. Fred Hoyle for example was an atheist, a materialist but believed in intelligent design. Creationism is religiously based. Michael Denton has never been religious, never been a creationist, he just questioned the theory of evolution and came to the conclusion intelligent design stood with the facts. Have a read of the book, wikipedia is an ok site but don't put all your faith into it anyone can edit the website.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Intelligent design and Creationism are not the same thing. Fred Hoyle for example was an atheist, a materialist but believed in intelligent design. Creationism is religiously based. Michael Denton has never been religious, never been a creationist, he just questioned the theory of evolution and came to the conclusion intelligent design stood with the facts. Have a read of the book, wikipedia is an ok site but don't put all your faith into it anyone can edit the website.

First, I agree that intelligent design and creationism are not the same thing. But that doesn't mean that a certain organization isn't pushing a religious agenda.

Second, I posted the wiki article for your benefit, not mine. There are ample resources presented in those articles - references to books and articles, which are not available for anyone to edit.
 

Noaidi

slow walker
Michael Denton has never been religious, never been a creationist, he just questioned the theory of evolution and came to the conclusion intelligent design stood with the facts.

Does Denton indicate who / what the designer is? If he is an atheist or non-religious, I'm assuming no deity plays a part in his view.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
All this talk of credentials & affiliations.....so unnecessary.
When a man's argument fails, that is what matters.
Bunk is bunk, no matter who the author.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Michael Denton has never been a creationist and he has not been a member of the discovery institute for a very long time. Discovery institute does publish alot of creationist articles but the organisation is not only for creationists it is open to anybody who wants to question the theory of evolution.

Perhaps if you read his second book, "natures destiny" you'd understand why the discovery institute no longer affiliates with him. It's because he no longer holds the views of what he wrote in, "Evolution a theory in crisis."
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Intelligent design and Creationism are not the same thing.

Maybe, but I've never heard of anything being cited as the intelligence in intelligent design except for God.

perhaps you can show me a website that proposes an alternative for God as the intelligence?
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Maybe, but I've never heard of anything being cited as the intelligence in intelligent design except for God.

perhaps you can show me a website that proposes an alternative for God as the intelligence?

Aliens.
 

Noaidi

slow walker
Maybe, but I've never heard of anything being cited as the intelligence in intelligent design except for God.

perhaps you can show me a website that proposes an alternative for God as the intelligence?

IDers are often careful not to name a deity, and maintain that an intelligent designer could equally be an advanced alien civilisation that created the Earth and life on it.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Intelligent design and Creationism are not the same thing. Fred Hoyle for example was an atheist, a materialist but believed in intelligent design. Creationism is religiously based. Michael Denton has never been religious, never been a creationist, he just questioned the theory of evolution and came to the conclusion intelligent design stood with the facts. Have a read of the book, wikipedia is an ok site but don't put all your faith into it anyone can edit the website.

They are the same thing, because the objections are basically the same. Every argument for intelligent design is an argument from ignorance, and the same goes for creationism. Intelligent design doesn't offer any facts or explanations, it simply asserts that certain parts of anatomy are too complex, but it doesn't explain how the intelligence created these anatomical parts, thus explaining nothing and offering a larger mystery than it explains.
 
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