evolution is a fact

[s2a]

evolution is a fact but not in the creation of life but in life itself, eg, the missing link fosil scale,, we elvolve to adapt to our environment,, humans used to have an apendix in there stomach but due to evolution we no longer need it, we used it to digest raw meat along time ago, now we don't need it its just a shriveled up sack in our abdomen,

Yes in (1) sense that evolution "happens", and (2) that evolution does NOT even attempt to "explain the "origins of life"

"Origins of life" exist within the revelations offed within cosmology, not biology itself.

Sane and rational people are left to draw their own conclusions from whatever "theories" make the most sense, predicate upon all available evidences presented.

Let us all remember that "evolution (theory)" is NOT a belief...it is an acceptance as FACT that evidence points to an unavoidable conclusion of TRUTH.

Big Distinction there

 

[firedragon]

evolution is a fact but not in the creation of life but in life itself, eg, the missing link fosil scale,, we elvolve to adapt to our environment,, humans used to have an apendix in there stomach but due to evolution we no longer need it, we used it to digest raw meat along time ago, now we don't need it its just a shriveled up sack in our abdomen,

It has been sometime since the function of the appendix has been discovered.

Researchers have discovered that the Appendix acts as a bank vault for good bacteria. Duke University Medical Centre in North Carolina is one of them. The concept that we used it to digest raw meat long time ago is not a scientific discovery but a completely unscientific theory concocted by Anti Theists and is easily dismissed at any theological discussion. Our system is more than capable of digesting raw meat.

You should read up on Dr. Price's study on African tribes.

 

[firedragon]

The OP does bring up a good point about vestigial organs, though possibly, the appendix was not the best choice.

A better example may have been Wisdom Teeth.

According to Scientific American, the "Appendix" as a necessary part of our immune system is far from conclusive, and the very fact that the appendix is often removed without apparent ill effects does serve as an indication that it is not.

What is the function of the human appendix? Did it once have a purpose that has since been lost? - Scientific American

Basically, Evolutionary Biologists believe that vestigial organs are remnants from earlier stages in evolution.

An even better question would be "Why do men have nipples". Loving it.

 

[s2a]

It has been sometime since the function of the appendix has been discovered.

Researchers have discovered that the Appendix acts as a bank vault for good bacteria. Duke University Medical Centre in North Carolina is one of them. The concept that we used it to digest raw meat long time ago is not a scientific discovery but a completely unscientific theory concocted by Anti Theists and is easily dismissed at any theological discussion. Our system is more than capable of digesting raw meat.

You should read up on Dr. Price's study on African tribes.

All the best in surviving Appendicitis beyond the advent of modern medicine.

I'll pray for you as you die.

Badly.

Amen.

 

[s2a]

An even better question would be "Why do men have nipples". Loving it.

I will speculate that you have yet to meet an interesting partner in sexual relations.

Oh well...

 

[firedragon]

I will speculate that you have yet to meet an interesting partner in sexual relations.

Oh well...

Sorry bro, not available to males. No offense though, just a statement, nothing against you.

 

[Ouroboros]

An even better question would be "Why do men have nipples". Loving it.

As providing a vessel for male galactorrhea (sounds awful, really just means spontaneous lactation, yes, mammal males have mammary glands and can occasionally produce milk... if this was an intentional design by God, then God wanted males to be partially females. :/)

 

[fantome profane]

As providing a vessel for male galactorrhea (sounds awful, really just means spontaneous lactation, yes, mammal males have mammary glands and can occasionally produce milk... if this was an intentional design by God, then God wanted males to be partially females. :/)

God is such a pervert.

(kidding, don't smite me) :run:

 

[firedragon]

As providing a vessel for male galactorrhea (sounds awful, really just means spontaneous lactation, yes, mammal males have mammary glands and can occasionally produce milk... if this was an intentional design by God, then God wanted males to be partially females. :/)

Brother, humans are also made with the same mold or as some point out the conception to have a female template. I was just talking of the male nipples because of a wisdom tooth reference. Nothing more. And some guy even got exited I think enough to propose to me.

 

[Ouroboros]

Brother, humans are also made with the same mold or as some point out the conception to have a female template. I was just talking of the male nipples because of a wisdom tooth reference. Nothing more. And some guy even got exited I think enough to propose to me.

Yes, the same mold as all biological life. We all share the same genetic construct, even if we don't share the same genetic code. We're all part of the same biological "machinery". We share traits with mammals, because we are molded from the mammal branch of evolution. We share traits with apes, fish, bananas, and much more because we all share ancestry (mold).

 

[ScuzManiac]

Sorry bro, not available to males. No offense though, just a statement, nothing against you.

What does being into males have anything to do with what he said?

:sarcastic

 

[firedragon]

What does being into males have anything to do with what he said?

:sarcastic

Nothing.

 

[Ouroboros]

the appendix is a part of our immune system.

They used to think it served no purpose or functon, but in fact it does.
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What is the function of the human appendix? Did it once have a purpose that has since been lost? - Scientific American

Here's a thing I'm not sure it's clear about God creating the appendix. Why did God have to give Adam and Eve an appendix to support the immune system? Why even give them an immune system if the world was created perfect? Was there illness, sickness, virus, disease, malicious bacteria, and such in Eden? I thought it was a perfect place.

So did God create the appendix in Adam and Eve or did he add it to the "design" after the fall?

If he gave Adam and Eve that, then God knew it would be needed later. He already anticipated the fall and planned the body for it.

Besides, since our intestines are full of bacteria that we need to break down food (and appendix is a "vault" for storing the healthy ones when you get stomach disease), was that part of God's plan too? To have foreign life forms inside our body so we could eat food? Why didn't he create us to be able to break down food without that "help"?

And then the last question, who created disease? Was it God? Was it Satan? Was it Nature after the fall? If it was God, then God is a direct agent of disease and illness, which makes him a not-so-good God. If it was Satan, then we have to assume Satan can create just like God. If it was nature, well, then we're back to evolution, that's how nature does it.

 

[firedragon]

Here's a thing I'm not sure it's clear about God creating the appendix. Why did God have to give Adam and Eve an appendix to support the immune system? Why even give them an immune system if the world was created perfect? Was there illness, sickness, virus, disease, malicious bacteria, and such in Eden? I thought it was a perfect place.

So did God create the appendix in Adam and Eve or did he add it to the "design" after the fall?

If he gave Adam and Eve that, then God knew it would be needed later. He already anticipated the fall and planned the body for it.

Besides, since our intestines are full of bacteria that we need to break down food (and appendix is a "vault" for storing the healthy ones when you get stomach disease), was that part of God's plan too? To have foreign life forms inside our body so we could eat food? Why didn't he create us to be able to break down food without that "help"?

And then the last question, who created disease? Was it God? Was it Satan? Was it Nature after the fall? If it was God, then God is a direct agent of disease and illness, which makes him a not-so-good God. If it was Satan, then we have to assume Satan can create just like God. If it was nature, well, then we're back to evolution, that's how nature does it.

So far, i have not known one religion that says "Evolution is baloney". People may say it, the scriptures don't.

Your question of why can be applied to everything. And if God created a perfect world with no diseases or strife we could have been mechanical robots. These questions can go on forever.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Your question of why can be applied to everything. And if God created a perfect world with no diseases or strife we could have been mechanical robots.

Would we? Is it impossible for God to have created a world where there was no disease or war, and yet we still have free will (or the illusion of it)?

 

[firedragon]

Would we? Is it impossible for God to have created a world where there was no disease or war, and yet we still have free will (or the illusion of it)?

Well, the religious contention is that nothing is impossible for God.

But what ifs are not my forte.

Peace.

 

[firedragon]

Today I watched a video of a Dog being electrocuted and killed for its fur. These are things that sometimes make you wonder if God exists. As a theologian, maybe that thought should never enter my mind but it does. Only the scripture is making me believe God exists.

Thus, I am not negating your question at all. Just that, what ifs are abundant and answers to that is bleak. And as a past university student of evolution I have too many questions on evolution to blindly believe in that. To me, even evolution needs faith. A lot of it.

Peace.

 

[Skwim]

So far, i have not known one religion that says "Evolution is baloney". People may say it, the scriptures don't.

By implication the scriptures do. At least the way some people read them. Because creationism is incompatible with evolution, and because Biblical scripture trumps all other forms of evidence, by default evolution has to be baloney.

Your question of why can be applied to everything. And if God created a perfect world with no diseases or strife we could have been mechanical robots.

As organisms ruled by determinism, in a sense that's what we already are.

These questions can go on forever.

Of course, because the Bible is rife with improbabilities, contradictions, and outright nonsense. And to make any kind of sense of it all is impossible, which is why people rarely, if ever, try to do so. Most often the approach is unquestioning belief and faith, sans any question as to its lack of logic.

 

[Ouroboros]

So far, i have not known one religion that says "Evolution is baloney". People may say it, the scriptures don't.

My question was directed to Pegg who believes that the Bible does say "Evolution is baloney". She thinks evolution is baloney, and she's using the Bible to defend her belief. So I want to know her thoughts of the conflicting concepts.

Your question of why can be applied to everything.

No. The question is specifically in the context of Creationism.

And if God created a perfect world with no diseases or strife we could have been mechanical robots. These questions can go on forever.

That doesn't answer the problem of her faith. She denies evolution, but in doing so will introduce conflicting ideas. Those can be questioned.

And I'm not going to go into a discussion with you about the validity of me asking her those questions. And I'm refusing to be put into the situation of talking about her in third person and not getting the appropriate answers directly from her.

 

[outhouse]

. And as a past university student of evolution I have too many questions on evolution to blindly believe in that. .

This is all due to your ignorance and a bad professor.


Evolution has been observed and is a fact all day long.