Evolution, violence and the existence of God

[URAVIP2ME]

Says you. I've read the bible-- it describes hell as endless torment.
That's a pretty good definition of infinite evil.

What verse do you have in mind.
I find it interesting that you used the word torment, instead of the word torture.
Wouldn't endless burning be more like: torture.
In Scripture (Bible speak) a 'tormentor' was simply a 'jailer' according to Matthew 18:34; Matthew 18:30; Acts of the Apostles 16:23,30,36.

Also, I find that originally the Bible was Not written in English.
KJV Bibles translated the word Gehenna into English as hellfire.
Gehenna was simple a garbage pit near Jerusalem where things were destroyed forever, Not kept burning forever.
So, Gehenna is a fitting word for: destruction, as in the wicked will be destroyed forever according to Psalms 92:7.
Kind of like if you throw something into a fireplace. What is burned up is gone forever. Can't torment ashes.
The upright people will remain according to Proverbs 2:21-22, thus then the humble meek people ( Not the wicked ) will inherit the Earth as Jesus' promised. God will bring those ruining earth to their ruin - Revelation 11:18 B.
Even sinner Satan ( who was never in biblical hell ) will be destroyed by Jesus according to Hebrews 2:14 B.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You're probably thinking of Matthew 25:45 which says

"And these shall go into everlasting torment; but the just men shall go into everlasting life."​

Thing is, "torment" here doesn't really mean torment as we commonly use it, .................................
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We can be tormented by a person, but that does Not necessarily mean tortured by a person.
In Bible speak, or scripturally speaking, a tormentor was a jailer according to Matthew 18:34,30; Acts 16:23,27,36.
The 'everlasting torment' in Scripture is equal to 'everlasting destruction' according to 2 Thessalonians 1:9.
As in the wicked will be destroyed forever according to Psalms 92:7.
Destroyed by the 'executional words' from Jesus' mouth according to Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.

 

[Skwim]

We can be tormented by a person, but that does Not necessarily mean tortured by a person.

"Torture" was a grammatical mistake. Mea culpa.

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[Bob the Unbeliever]

What verse do you have in mind.
I find it interesting that you used the word torment, instead of the word torture.
Wouldn't endless burning be more like: torture.
In Scripture (Bible speak) a 'tormentor' was simply a 'jailer' according to Matthew 18:34; Matthew 18:30; Acts of the Apostles 16:23,30,36.

Also, I find that originally the Bible was Not written in English.
KJV Bibles translated the word Gehenna into English as hellfire.
Gehenna was simple a garbage pit near Jerusalem where things were destroyed forever, Not kept burning forever.
So, Gehenna is a fitting word for: destruction, as in the wicked will be destroyed forever according to Psalms 92:7.
Kind of like if you throw something into a fireplace. What is burned up is gone forever. Can't torment ashes.
The upright people will remain according to Proverbs 2:21-22, thus then the humble meek people ( Not the wicked ) will inherit the Earth as Jesus' promised. God will bring those ruining earth to their ruin - Revelation 11:18 B.
Even sinner Satan ( who was never in biblical hell ) will be destroyed by Jesus according to Hebrews 2:14 B.

So you do not believe your own bible? Interesting.

I find you something of a hypocrite, here-- you expect ME to blindly follow your own book, but YOU get to re-define anything you do not particularly like.

hmmmm....

 

[james dixon]

Wherever we humans have evolved from, we all have one thing in common, it is the same in plants, bacteria, Amoebae, insects, birds, fish and humans have & that is DNA.

The origin of DNA is the origin of life.