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EVOLUTION, what a lie.
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Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
All this has been about Intelligent Design? Say it ain't so!
I've heard that "Darwin's Black Box" was like popping the hood on an automobile and seeing this "Do Not Touch" sign. Why not complete the analogy? I used to do auto mechanics. A lot of little guys used to make a living repairing cars. Then the big repair shops got together with the manufacturers and instigated the use of vast and complicated diagnosis machines. Just plug your sick car into the machine, and the autodoc says, "take two quarts and call me in the morning." Thing is, you must be a big outfit to afford such a machine. So, today's "black box" under the hood is a manufactured complexity inspired by greed and the desire to monopolize. This isn't "intelligence" behind the "design," this is consumerist capitalism; certainly not god.
Or, one could just do the research and find out ID is straight crap, but that doesn't seem to be working.
People got questions and want answers but are too lazy to play catchup on the research that has already been done for them....so they get in their mind, probably through indoctrination at a young age, some invisible sky daddy did it all.......but then when someone comes along with the answers they were looking for but happens to contradict their brainwashing...they stick their fingers in their ears because they can't handle nor want the truth.......:ignore:
Why cant someone argue effectively with a creationist/intelligent designist about evolution if you dont believe in Humans having a soul? I dont understand why you would make that claim. Please explain.
Wasnt going to ask, because I dont see the relevance. I believe in evolution, and I like pineapple on my pizza. But the one has nothing to do with the other.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Why is what? :areyoucra
Why can you not effectively argue with a creationist unless you believe in the existence of the human soul?
You are in completely different playing fields. There might be some common ground om which you could meet, but the gaping chasm between your belief systems is too wide to cross.
Humans were just like animals 1.5 million years ago. They moved in packs, and were not self aware. About 40,000 years ago we have the first records of written communication. Somewhere in there, Humans became evolved enoughto acquire a soul. This may sound "creationist" to you, but I promise it is not. You see, we Baha'is believe that religion and science can balance each other. Everything in the material world had a spiritual source. We evolved as God would have wished.
imaginaryme
Active Member
I cannot believe in a soul because then I'd have to believe that some people are just soul-less and evil. I don't like that option, so I just believe in love.
imaginaryme
Active Member
That reminds me of a piece of hilarity I have seen linked somewhere else on this forum. Creationists in general don't accept fossils as evidence for evolution, but here was one (in a link) using fossils as evidence of the flood. :thud:
Good ol' science. Whether one believes in it or not, science works.
rageoftyrael
Veritas
zenzero, you annoy me. I say this in a good way, kind of. I'm not trying to be mean, but i swear, you always come in to a post, and say something that basically makes me go "well, he didn't really say anything, now did he?". Which annoys me.
DarkSun
:eltiT
I cannot believe in a soul because then I'd have to believe that some people are just soul-less and evil. I don't like that option, so I just believe in love.
I like pineapple on my pizza.
DarkSun
:eltiT
zenzero, you annoy me. I say this in a good way, kind of. I'm not trying to be mean, but i swear, you always come in to a post, and say something that basically makes me go "well, he didn't really say anything, now did he?". Which annoys me.
Read it again, that was brilliant.
DarkSun
:eltiT
Friend DarkSun,
There it goes again!
Brilliance is only felt, not read about!
Love & rgds
Hahahahahaha! My bad, sorry.
Fritz
Philosopher
Evolution makes a lot of sense. Much more sense than any religion. But if it where wrong, that would not mean that religion is right.
Anyways, evolution is like a crane, and religion like a skyhook. A crane we can understand, and know how it works, a skyhook is just there, hanging from the sky. Now ask yourself, which one is more likely to create something, a crane, or a skyhook?
Anyways, evolution is like a crane, and religion like a skyhook. A crane we can understand, and know how it works, a skyhook is just there, hanging from the sky. Now ask yourself, which one is more likely to create something, a crane, or a skyhook?
rageoftyrael
Veritas
that is something i find hilarious, to be honest. you have theists who act as if the fact that if evolution were true, it would somehow disprove their religion. it doesn't! so shut up, and smell the science!
Zadok
Zadok
this thread is a continuation from another one (russia will be a muslim country), we are getting off the topic there so tada. who wants to go first?
i hope we all learn something (evolution is not real, what a releife :beach
When we observe myosis in a single living cell we will observe what scientist call differentiation as the cell begins to unwind its DNA and separate the cell into two parts. As this process continues the cell will eventually divide. When the division has taken place there will be two cells as different from each other as from the original cell. This is evolution and it takes place millions of times each day in every human. It is not just a theory but an observable event. Once the division is complete there are two possibilities, disassociation which results in the two new cells completely separating and going their separate ways as two new life forms that are children to the original. The second is integration; this is when the new cells form symbiosis relationships with each other which will define a higher single multi cell life form.
From a single cell of a single kind or type in the beginning of a human will come enormous numbers of different KINDS of cells for bones, eyes, heart, lungs, skin and every other part of a human being. This process is evolution pure and simple and it exists and can be observed by anyone willing to see it for themselves. It is evolutionary adaptation through regeneration of life. There is no evidence that there ever has been any other method for genesis of life that exists so abundantly. Every known living thing springs from this architecture. To deny evolution is to deny new life and creation. To say the evolution process exist to this, the arbitrary point defined by men as that of the species and then no longer occurs, is to me a mockery of what little knowledge the Almighty grants us. How silly are we to assume that the Almighty deceives us in what he shows us in nature or that we can make up in our own ignorant minds to a better understanding of that which he openly displays to all that will look upon his wonders.
Zadok
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
I agree that evolution makes sense but if it is "wrong" (so far no evidence to that assumption has been shown)...then that doesn't automatically mean "religion" (which one?) is right.
Malleus_de_Philosophia
Member
:yes: I agree. I can only presume that they fear the power of science because they may recognize that if science is indeed true, then they're left as being wrong and left not sure what group to turn to because all other religions may be deemed wrong also. I think though that this happens due to them being so blinded by their beliefs and by their beliefs claiming to be correct while everything else is wrong, so eventually their views become altered.