Evolution

[We Never Know]

I'm not confused. I'm aligned with the scientific community

Altruism can be explained by natural selection - Nature

Again.....
If you don't contribute to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans. Its that simple.

 

[We Never Know]

I'm trying to figure out what point you're trying to make. Could you unpack it for me?

If you don't contribute to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans.

 

[sun rise]

Again.....
If you don't contribute to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans. Its that simple.

So you won't even look at the evidence that proves you're wrong but just repeat yourself. Got it.

 

[Soandso]

If you don't contribute to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans.

Is this a eugenics thing? Why does it matter if LGBT folks do or don't contribute to the gene pool? What about barren women, or infertile men? They don't contribute to the gene pool, either

Keep in mind, homosexuality has been observed in other animals besides humans. It's an expression of natural evolution, whether or not it contributes to the gene pool - especially when we take into account that this behavior has been observed across different species. Since this is the case, it stands to reason that it might serve some kind of purpose

Then again, evolution isn't my strong point. I seem to remember this being addressed in a study that was published recently, though

 

[We Never Know]

Nearly everything we do contributes to the future of humanity. Art, politics, technology, simple things like how we're treating others now. I have relatives who have contributed our family line, my sister, cousins. Why should I have to contribute seed/egg or whatever? I can leave a legacy...no matter what it is. Humanity doesn't need or require me for it's continuity.

I respect you but art, politics, technology, simple things like how we're treating others doesn't contribute to the gene pool.

 

[We Never Know]

Is this a eugenics thing? Why does it matter if LGBT folks do or don't contribute to the gene pool? What about barren women, or infertile men? They don't contribute to the gene pool, either

Keep in mind, homosexuality has been observed in other animals besides humans. It's an expression of natural evolution, whether or not it contributes to the gene pool - especially when we take into account that this behavior has been observed across different species. Since this is the case, it stands to reason that it might serve some kind of purpose

Then again, evolution isn't my strong point. I seem to remember this being addressed in a study that was published recently, though

"Keep in mind, homosexuality has been observed in other animals besides humans"

And that produces the same amount of off spring as a dog humping you leg.

Other specie get horny by their drive to reproduce. They will hump anything near them. It doesn't make them homosexual. If thats the case, what do you call a dog humping you leg?(or the cat, or whatever it can)

 

[Soandso]

"Keep in mind, homosexuality has been observed in other animals besides humans"

And that produces the same amount of off spring as a dog humping you leg.

Other specie get horny by their drive to reproduce. They will hump anything near them. It doesn't make them homosexual. If thats the case, what do you call a dog humping you leg?(or the cat, or whatever it can)

Huh... Have you also ever felt the urge to hump legs? What makes your urges any different than an animal?

Keep in mind, in the dog world humping is an actual sign of dominance. It serves a deeper purpose than reproductive urges

 

[We Never Know]

Huh... Have you also ever felt the urge to hump legs?

Nope but we are just another animal species. Instead of humping legs, we can please ourselves.

 

[Soandso]

Nope but we are just another animal species. Instead of humping legs, we can please ourselves.

And animals can do that as well. We are talking about something else entirely, though. Have you felt the urge to pleasure yourself with other men? Would you allow other men to pleasure themselves with you?

As a run of the mill straight guy, I'm attracted to women, so that's where I would direct my effort

 

[Viker]

I respect you but art, politics, technology, simple things like how we're treating others doesn't contribute to the gene pool.

It contributes to a broader spectrum, which also includes reproduction and the inevitable evolution of a species. Most are going to contribute to the gene pool. A few not doing so can't be any harm or problem.

 

[We Never Know]

And animals can do that as well. We are talking about something else entirely, though. Have you felt the urge to pleasure yourself with other men? Would you allow other men to pleasure themselves with you?

As a run of the mill straight guy, I'm attracted to women, so that's where I would direct my effort

Yeah I'm not really familure with any others species bearing their pud or using sex toys.

 

[SomeRandom]

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If you don't contrite to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans. Its that simple.

What confused you?

Are you seriously not aware of the way humans and animals contribute to the gene pool without procreating? Geez dude, my high school biology teacher would have kicked your *** for such blatant ignorance
Oof!!
And I went to a freaking trade school for Christ’s sake!!
Maybe read up on actual biology and evolution. Because the stuff you’re spouting would have gotten me several lectures on how idiotic I was being. At the very least
Like wtf?

 

[We Never Know]

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Are you seriously not aware of the way humans and animals contribute to the gene pool without procreating? Geez dude, my high school biology teacher would have kicked your *** for such blatant ignorance
Oof!!
And I went to a freaking trade school for Christ’s sake!!
Maybe read up on actual biology and evolution. Because the stuff you’re spouting would have gotten me several lectures on how idiotic I was being. At the very least
Like wtf?

Tell me what humans do that contribute.to the gene pool without contributing their genes.

 

[exchemist]

Just because..(I'm being nice)

Evolution; is the process in which populations (or gene pools ) evolve as gene frequencies change; individual organisms cannot evolve. Variation in populations is determined by the genes present in the population's gene pool, which may be directly altered by mutation

So if there is no offspring produced because of being gay, transgender, or whatever...

There is no
-contribution to the gene pool
-contribution to evolution
-envolvenent in the evolution of humans.

This may sound like I am being a prick, but its fact.

But I'm labeled cis for doing all the above. Which according to science is natural.
Honestly speaking from several I know, labeling us is where you lost some support. You can be trans, gay, unidentified, etc... But you dragged us into your world when you labeled us.

Can you clarify what issue you wish to debate here? The title is "evolution", but the OP suggests you are preoccupied with a rarely used label for everybody that has not announced they want to change sex.

So is this about evolution or about trans people?

 

[We Never Know]

Can you clarify what issue you wish to debate here? The title is "evolution", but the OP suggests you are preoccupied with a rarely used label for everybody that has not announced they want to change sex.

So is this about evolution or about trans people?

Evolution; is the process in which populations (or gene pools ) evolve as gene frequencies change; individual organisms cannot evolve. Variation in populations is determined by the genes present in the population's gene pool, which may be directly altered by mutation

So if there is no offspring produced because of being gay, transgender, or whatever...

There is no
-contribution to the gene pool
-contribution to evolution
-envolvenent in the evolution of humans.

In short human evolution, evolution in general depends on the gene pool.

 

[exchemist]

Evolution; is the process in which populations (or gene pools ) evolve as gene frequencies change; individual organisms cannot evolve. Variation in populations is determined by the genes present in the population's gene pool, which may be directly altered by mutation

So if there is no offspring produced because of being gay, transgender, or whatever...

There is no
-contribution to the gene pool
-contribution to evolution
-envolvenent in the evolution of humans.

In short human evolution, evolution in general depends on the gene pool.

Well there is no direct transmission of genes from people that do not procreate, that hardly needs stating.

But as far no envolvement (you mean involvement) in evolution, that does not quite follow. Worker bees do not procreate. Do you think they have no involvement in the evolution of bees? What effect do the workers have on the chances of survival of the queens?

 

[We Never Know]

Well there is no direct transmission of genes from people that do not procreate, that hardly needs stating.

But as far no envolvement (you mean involvement) in evolution, that does not quite follow. Worker bees do not procreate. Do you think they have no involvement in the evolution of bees? What effect do the workers have on the chances of survival of the queens?

"Well there is no direct transmission of genes from people that do not procreate, that hardly needs stating."

Thats the point. Baby sitters such as the bees don't add to the gene pool. They only serve a purpose.

 

[exchemist]

"Well there is no direct transmission of genes from people that do not procreate, that hardly needs stating."

Thats the point. Baby sitters such as the bees don't add to the gene pool. They only serve a purpose.

My question to you is whether you think the workers make no contribution to the survival of the queens. How do you answer that?

 

[We Never Know]

My question to you is whether you think the workers make no contribution to the survival of the queens. How do you answer that?

They aid her survival without adding to the gene pool. Could you not figure that out?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Again.....
If you don't contribute to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans. Its that simple.

King Aethelstan, grandson of Alfred the Great, but played a role in shaping and forming what would become known as England. In various ways, his contributions are an effort that have effected us and our ancestors for 1000 years.
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