Evolutionism CRUSHED by Creationism

[Simurgh]

I went back to where the original post that talked about rape of children being committed only by those who did not have some god and his light by JT. Stupid remarks like that just get me righteously ticked off. His whole rambling monologue is just too funny to pass up. I have seen fifth graders with a better understanding of basic science than this diatribe. And his religious lesson? Makes me think he needs some guidance in catechism 101 or he’ll flunk the class again again.

………………….~ Christianity = acknowledging God through the LIGHT, or Word, or IMAGE of himself which he had provided; is the only reason people do not rape children, that you have any rights, that you are not eaten, and that humans do not have a sexual mating season like every other animal known to exist. { because we are meant to apply restraint and reason to our actions to show respect to each other and the universal laws.
Every religion since the beginning of Time states, be married.

now, how then do you explain all those god-fearing men who rape children? Did they forget to pay the light bill? And the thing about mating season? Who cancelled ovulation since yesterday? We might not have seasons, but we are able and willing to mate and multiply every month. Granted, I would prefer if we were only fertile once or twice a year too, cuts down on the cost of being female not just because of the mess, but also because for some of us it is a painful event, and the hassle of tampons…..

BTW, your thing about marriage? You are wrong. Marriage has always been a social contract and even if the gods were invoked to grant fertility, this did not make it a religious ceremony but a civil contract between families concerning pooling of power and resources. Religion was a peripheral or non-intruding addition. If you had ever studied religions you would know that. Also, regarding the beginning of time, there were no people around. We came much later, so don’t get ahead of yourself.

but now I'm rambling.

The first 4 days did Evolution in, but only after it was permitted time to disgrace itself.

Well, you were rambling from the get-go.
…and the day will never come when religious myths “[do] Evolution in” since it is not possible to disprove science with fairy tales.

 

[JosephThomas]

Then what created God?

He is the unfathomable. Where he is every fathomable thought exists without manifestation. But he is even so beyond this.

guess you just don't accept religion because you don't understand it. Not because you have reason not too.



But I read one post, about someone talking about rape. A God fearing man cannot rape. He is thereby not God fearing. And you cannot use him as an example against faith in God. use common sense.
I cannot call a girl a woman and believe myself if she is not fully matured. in likewise a man without faith does not represent the faithful.
ur still embarrassing. the lot of you.

 

[JosephThomas]

Only because it isn't X. Y and Z both share the quality of non-X.

So you've said.

hey, a chart with X Y and Z factors is a chart directly comparing them all.

 

[Bunyip]

He is the unfathomable. Where he is every fathomable thought exists without manifestation. But he is even so beyond this.

guess you just don't accept religion because you don't understand it. Not because you have reason not too.



But I read one post, about someone talking about rape. A God fearing man cannot rape. He is thereby not God fearing. And you cannot use him as an example against faith in God. use common sense.
I cannot call a girl a woman and believe myself if she is not fully matured. in likewise a man without faith does not represent the faithful.
ur still embarrassing. the lot of you.

That is the 'No true Scotsman' fallacy.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

He is the unfathomable. Where he is every fathomable thought exists without manifestation.

You're going back and forth here. One minute you are saying everything has to have an origin, then you are saying God has no origin. Both of those can't be true. So which one is the lie? I think what you meant to say is "everything has to have an origin, unless it is problematic to my religion." Then all of a sudden, it's "unfathomable."

 

[Simurgh]

You're going back and forth here. One minute you are saying everything has to have an origin, then you are saying God has no origin. Both of those can't be true. So which one is the lie? I think what you meant to say is "everything has to have an origin, unless it is problematic to my religion." Then all of a sudden, it's "unfathomable."

Let me translate this. Since everything has an origin, god decided there would be an origin for everything. Then he realized he could not possibly exist without an origin himself, so he went to his mother and asked about his origin and she said: “Don’t ask stupid questions. I needed someone to take the trash out and so I had you.”



The part that is ”unfathomable” is why she didn’t just do it herself and spared us the inconvenience of all those religions that now clutter up the landscape. Obviously, little godlings want to have a higher purpose than just taking out the trash. They want to be worshiped for it.

 

[fantome profane]

He is the unfathomable. Where he is every fathomable thought exists without manifestation. But he is even so beyond this.

guess you just don't accept religion because you don't understand it. Not because you have reason not too.

Well this is certainly an interesting point. Speaking for myself I have to say you are right here. I have never been able to understand things that are "unfathomable".

 

[Skwim]

hey, a chart with X Y and Z factors is a chart directly comparing them all.

Thing is, I seriously doubt you even know what you mean by this. Saying anything for the sake of being heard is less than impressive.

 

[gnostic]

He is the unfathomable. Where he is every fathomable thought exists without manifestation. But he is even so beyond this.

guess you just don't accept religion because you don't understand it. Not because you have reason not too.

All this "unfathomable", you are talking about, is that you don't understand your god or your religion.

But even worse, your faith is not the only thing to you. Judging by your OP, science is also "unfathomable" to you.

You talk of light, electricity, water, geology, etc, in the OP, trying to mix your religion with science, but clearly you don't have a single understanding of the science behind any of them.

You talk of evolution being crushed by creationism, and yet you have made no mention of this so-called "crushing". This is the 129th post, and so far you have shown no understanding of evolution, let alone demonstrated with any logic of your claim or argument, except to look utterly silly with your ignorance.

 

[ruffen]

He is the unfathomable. Where he is every fathomable thought exists without manifestation. But he is even so beyond this.

Let's say, for argument's sake, that something unfathomable created the Universe. What makes you believe that this unfathomable "thing" is an intelligent conscious being and not just some natural non-intelligent process?

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

Now, how in the heck did the sexual abuse of children become ridiculously entangled in a debate regarding Evolution vs. Creationism!? Pedophilia is a mental disorder, and like ALL mental disorders, it does not recognize socioeconomic, racial or religious lines. It has no place in this discussion, period.

As far as "humans" being "special" because we are not "seasonal breeders", here are a few other species on the planet who are nonseasonal breeders:

nonseasonal breeder - Search results - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Evolution is the study of the diversity of life; our OP doesn't recognize that, so therefore our OP does not understand the Theory of Evolution; heck, doesn't even understand the definition of the Theory of Evolution; thus our OP is attacking something that the OP does not understand and knows NOTHING about. That's akin to an Auto Mechanic informing the Doctor that his diagnosis is wrong, or the Doctor instructing the Auto Mechanic the "correct" method of replacing a transmission.

Before you can attack something, you have to understand what you are attacking.

A couple fundamental, well known facts about our natural world completely obliterates the Creation Myth of the Bible; sweetly, simply, and irrevocably:

1. You can't have light without a light source. The Sun and Stars were not created until the 4th day. Without the light source, there would be no light.
2. Without a heat source, we have a temperature of absolute 0. No known plant species can survive without either light (photosynthesis) nor warmth (a heat source). As plants were created before the Sun and Stars, the plants would have instantly died in an environment devoid of both light and warmth.

Creationism crushed.

 

[Simurgh]

Now, how in the heck did the sexual abuse of children become ridiculously entangled in a debate regarding Evolution vs. Creationism!? Pedophilia is a mental disorder, and like ALL mental disorders, it does not recognize socioeconomic, racial or religious lines. It has no place in this discussion, period.

As far as "humans" being "special" because we are not "seasonal breeders", here are a few other species on the planet who are nonseasonal breeders:

nonseasonal breeder - Search results - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Evolution is the study of the diversity of life; our OP doesn't recognize that, so therefore our OP does not understand the Theory of Evolution; heck, doesn't even understand the definition of the Theory of Evolution; thus our OP is attacking something that the OP does not understand and knows NOTHING about. That's akin to an Auto Mechanic informing the Doctor that his diagnosis is wrong, or the Doctor instructing the Auto Mechanic the "correct" method of replacing a transmission.

Before you can attack something, you have to understand what you are attacking.

A couple fundamental, well known facts about our natural world completely obliterates the Creation Myth of the Bible; sweetly, simply, and irrevocably:

1. You can't have light without a light source. The Sun and Stars were not created until the 4th day. Without the light source, there would be no light.
2. Without a heat source, we have a temperature of absolute 0. No known plant species can survive without either light (photosynthesis) nor warmth (a heat source). As plants were created before the Sun and Stars, the plants would have instantly died in an environment devoid of both light and warmth.

Creationism crushed.

oh, the "seasonal breeder" thing is just too precious. That is all that distinguishes us from "lesser" species such as rats? And there I thought it is because we are the only species with blue eyes...damn I should have looked at my cat before I said that...well, I am sure there is something unique about humans.

I would like to say, that there must be other women out there who would agree with me that seasonal breeding would be a nice change from the crap we have to put up with every month. Nice crushing job, very basic and easy to understand. This non-seasonal breeder salutes you.

 

[McBell]

Let's say, for argument's sake, that something unfathomable created the Universe. What makes you believe that this unfathomable "thing" is an intelligent conscious being and not just some natural non-intelligent process?

How can he?
I mean, if it is "unfathomable" how is it he can fathom something about it?

 

[McBell]

He is the unfathomable.

Then how did you fathom him to be the "creator"?

Where he is every fathomable thought exists without manifestation. But he is even so beyond this.

Well, so much for his being "unfathomable"...

guess you just don't accept religion because you don't understand it. Not because you have reason not too.

I suspect this is a big part of the problem.
You guess far to much.

A God fearing man cannot rape.

Says who?
You?
You have already shown you like to guess.
You have also already shown you are not very good at guessing.
So hopefully you have something other than your word/belief to support your above claim.

He is thereby not God fearing. And you cannot use him as an example against faith in God.

Except that you have not support your bold empty guess that "A God fearing man cannot rape"...

So until such time as you successfully substantiate said guess, he can be used as such.

use common sense.

You would do good to follow your own advice here....

I cannot call a girl a woman and believe myself if she is not fully matured. in likewise a man without faith does not represent the faithful.

Please be so kind as to reword this as it makes no sense as it currently sits.

ur still embarrassing. the lot of you.

oh the irony.

 

[outhouse]

ur still embarrassing. the lot of you.

You looking in a mirror?


what you posit, is outlawed from children's minds in a science class.

what we posit, is taught in every major university in every civilized country, as higher learning and education.

 

[Pinta77]

Ok @the first post

I am a Christian, but I have to play devil's advocate here. I don't think it is fair to use the bible when arguing Christianity . Because "the bible says so" is not a valid argument. You need to look farther =/

 

[Secret Chief]

And there I was thinking it was the year 2014. Can't wait for the Enlightenment.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

the first day states.

Light, which is electricity, is the beginning of time.

So ... the sun is electrical?

The movement of matter, electricity , IS in fact time. CHECK

So ... light is matter?

The second day states. The sky is water. it is H2O. aka. CHECK.

Wow! That's why rain falls from the sky! How fantastic!

these are modern scientific facts.

Where is your Nobel Prize, dude?

The third day of creation states, the planet expanded from within itself.

Q . - Can you provide a citation to the scripture that says that, please?

When you add electricity to a mass that had none before hand it expands. CHECK!

What is a mass that had none beforehand? Can you provide a few commonplace examples?

hence. when it happened, you can review the geology of the planeta dn prove it. CHECK!

So ... geology proves that the planet had no mass until electricity was introduced to it?

the planet has 100% electricity, the water has 100% electricity? where does the electricity go? SEEDS! on the surface.. logical? CHECK!

Seeds on the surface of the planet ... or seeds on the surface of he water? And how does the fact that only 70% of the planet's surface is covered with water impact your hypothesis?

the world has +100% electricity. where does it go?
Space. what does it do? cling to itself. The sun, the moon, the stars.
logical? Yes.

If light is electricity and it clings to itself ... then how is the sun observable from the Earth?

Evolutionism suck my book.

Checkmate.