Akivah
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It's pretty sad that the new reality is that the president lies. It used to be cause for headlines, now it is old hat.
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Examples of "fake news"?
- Thread starter leibowde84
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It's pretty sad that the new reality is that the president lies. It used to be cause for headlines, now it is old hat.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The issue with that is, is going on and on about how Mexico is sending us all these bad people, and then "assuming" that there are some good immigrants, it's no different and no more accurate than going on how bad Christians or Muslims are then "assuming" there are some good ones out there.
There is also the issue of how vague some of his statements are, such as what was it he was implying when he said "Second amendment people might be able to do something about it," a statement that followed his lie about Hillary coming for our guns.
I like these definitions. I will keep them.
I'll do some searching.....not easy for radio broadcasts.
I'm not defending Trump's "fake" statements.
Just addressing fake news.
Keep them clean & well greased.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If we consider Trump's every lie, it's seemingly like trying to prepare for every natural disaster that can potentially happen today, as well as the scores of other things that can go wrong that we should be prepared for. There are just so many and so little time.
The dangerous precedence this may set up is our nation becoming totally blase towards the next president's lies, seeing them as nothing big because we got so used to them from the previous president.
More fake news from NPR....
Trump Tweets Clip Of Him Bodyslamming CNN; Network Says 'Do Your Job'
Trump Tweets Clip Of Him Bodyslamming CNN; Network Says 'Do Your Job'
Interestingly, this does illustrate a point of the OP. The fact that Trump's administration has taken so much frustration out on CNN is unfounded. Saying their entire organization produces nothing but fake news by default does illustrate a glaring fallacy.
What's fake is that Trump is making a real threat.
Calling it "fake" doesn't mean the entire organization's products are fake.
I'd posted this before, but it's interesting enuf to rerun.....
We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
Here's one guy who does only fake news.
Btw, he's a registered Democrat.
We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
Here's one guy who does only fake news.
Btw, he's a registered Democrat.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's not fake news. Trump tweeted that, and NPR gave the responses of a few people. NPR didn't even insinuate it was a threat, but simply stated that CNN took it as such.
Right, but there has been a witch hunt against CNN since his rally days and it hasn't let up since. Undermining an news outlet because you (Trump and company) disagree does not make it "fake".
Theweirdtophat
Well-Known Member
The idea of fake news has been around long before Trump existed. And there is a lot of fake news and I'm not a Trump or Hilary supporter.
To make it out to be a threat is fake, ie, they're offering an opinion....a loopy
one designed to dishonestly advance a political agenda.
So what if there's been a witch hunt?
We wouldn't accept that excuse from Fox News.
Notice now that you're changing it from the issue
to an accusation of undermining. It's not about
the motive of the critic, but the fakeness of the news.
Tis not mere disagreement, but catching them in the
act of fabrication, & presenting opinion as fact.
One of the problems in spotting fake news is that itf the observer likes it, there's less tendency to
question it. And one can always rationalize how what's fake has merit, overlooking false aspects.
I've seen/heard it about Obama, Hillary, Trump & many others, eg, Michelle Obama's once being a hooker.
question it. And one can always rationalize how what's fake has merit, overlooking false aspects.
I've seen/heard it about Obama, Hillary, Trump & many others, eg, Michelle Obama's once being a hooker.
A semantic note. This Wikipedia definition is what I go by - emphasis mine. There is unconscious bias all over the media and senationalism, but fake news has to me specific characteristics which are a step worse. So if one has an example of what one would call fake, my question is about evidence that it was deliberately written with the intent to mislead.
Fake news is a type of yellow journalism or propaganda that consists of deliberate misinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media.[1] Fake news is written and published with the intent to mislead in order to gain financially or politically, often with sensationalist, exaggerated, or patently false headlines that grab attention
Fake news is a type of yellow journalism or propaganda that consists of deliberate misinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media.[1] Fake news is written and published with the intent to mislead in order to gain financially or politically, often with sensationalist, exaggerated, or patently false headlines that grab attention
True - confirmation bias is endemic and I'm guilty of it as well.
That's the old definition.
Popularly, it's far broader now.
I tried to correct this trend with my thread about it, but to no avail.