questfortruth
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It is Nihilism then.The rest of us acknowledge it is an empty box.
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It is Nihilism then.The rest of us acknowledge it is an empty box.
I do not think Gods are retarded (if they exist), it is an affliction which occurs in humans.Only God is not retarded then?
If its all that, then why do people keep claiming there is a god with great details included?If God is the source of all that exists, what does it even mean to debate God's existence? If God is the author of all that can be known, what does it even mean to claim that "God is omniscient"? Such states and conditions are beyond our intellectual grasp. We can ask but we cannot answer. Whatever God is or isn't, is clearly beyond our understanding. Though not beyond our imaginative speculations.
If you gain nothing from calling it an "empty Box" (and how could you gain anything from that?), and you gain something positive from calling it "God" (a focus for faith in the face of our ignorance/unknowing), and you cannot possibly determine what "really is" in the box, then it is clearly more logical to call what's in the box "God", and enjoy the positive advantages that come from doing so.You are basically arguing that what is in an empty box is too complex for us to sense and understand. Let your imagination run wild, just like girls on spring break.
The rest of us acknowledge it is an empty box.
Why atheists so sure of Atheism?If its all that, then why do people keep claiming there is a god with great details included?
No God around saying hello to everyone personally.Why atheists so sure of Atheism?
People imagine God to be whatever they want and need their God to be. And why not? If doing so helps them to live life better, and to live better lives, they'd be fools not to.If its all that, then why do people keep claiming there is a god with great details included?
Who told you that nonsense?No God around saying hello to everyone personally.
Proving God using a fictional character. Is that irony?
Yes, comparing God to a fictional character. Great way to start an argument.
You gain truth by acknowledging an empty box is empty, and not full of imaginary things that you work very, very hard to fool yourself isn't imaginary. The gain is avoiding all that mental busyness and illusion.If you gain nothing from calling it an "empty Box" (and how could you gain anything from that?),
You gain an illusion, which fine if you keep that illusion to yourself. But as soon as you try to convince others that that you think an empty box is full of what you imagine, and then blame these folks for not being convinced as deficient some how, you illusion gains you disrespect and disdain.and you gain something positive from calling it "God" (a focus for faith in the face of our ignorance/unknowing),
By using the senses and mental rationale that is normal for humans we can easily determine the box is empty. The pressure is on those who insist that the ordinary and reliables et of senses and reasoning isn't good enough to determine there is something in the box. Yet the believers can't explain that they have special powers of perception, nor have special evidence only available to them. All things on the table suggests the believers are engaged in elaborate illusions and can't see it for themselves. That is what illusion can do.and you cannot possibly determine what "really is" in the box, then it is clearly more logical to call what's in the box "God", and enjoy the positive advantages that come from doing so.
Whether a character exists or not, he must know that he exists. For example, Harry Potter knows that Harry Potter exists. Harry Potter in the novel quite knew that Harry was there. And his friends knew. Therefore, if the knowledges of the All-Knowing One are not false, then God exists. It has worked well out, God is proven. I am sure the satan will find right words for this proof. Otherwise, he is dead meat: "whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth" 2 Thessalonians 2:8.
Sometimes people lose their intelligence due to their needs. Can't even understand an analogy. So far gone.
I asked you this before but you didn't tell me: How does God know there there's nothing [he] doesn't know [he] doesn't know?By definition: a being named “God'' is all-knowing if He knows the entire set S. This definition implies that X1=”God exists”. Whether a character exists or not, he must know that he exists.
You're right, I don't understand the analogy.
Okay.
I wasn't disappointed.
Of course not. Good for you mate.
Here's something I'm intelligent enough to know for a fact... you ain't my mate. I choose those carefully and they are people I trust and respect.