Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

[Nakosis]

In reality, morality is entirely subjective, it really only matters when a society or other group collectively determines what will and will not be acceptable within their borders. I'm sure there are plenty of people that, while most people would consider them immoral monsters, probably thought God's model in the Old Testament was pretty good and admirable.

Hey! Something we agree on.

 

[free spirit]

I know what you said, I asked why what you said was actually so. You apparently have no answer, you just keep saying the same thing over and over and over again as if repetition makes it all better.

Sorry, I missed that: Here is what you want to know.
In the book of Genesis 1:26-27, God laid the foundations of the character and purpose of humanity, for we read: “Then God said, Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.”
So according to the above scripture we have the image of God in ourselves, but unfortunately man’s imaginative and artistic skill has fashioned God to resemble himself, male and female. Some of us even elevated animals as the form to worship. Others worship some object like the sun, the moon, the earth, or nature itself. Needless to say that they all are in error, because it is not the object, or creature, or our superficial appearance or gender that bears the image of God, but it is the essence (spirit) of God in us that bears the image of God.
It isn’t difficult to identify the spirit in us that bears the image of God; because He has not been hidden in some dark place, but He is in the most forefront of our lives. If anything it is His over-exposure that makes Him invisible as it were.
For with His essence we are able to think, formulate plans and be creative. To have the power of the Word means to be living souls. Just consider that without this Godly essence we would be like animals, living in the limitations of instinct, and not living from the essence of unlimited freedom and intelligent reason.
So the God given ability to formulate reason with words is what makes us in the image of God, for He created all things by the power of His word, and like Him we also plan and create things out of the reasoning power of our words. The ability to speak intelligent and creative words is truly what makes us living souls; therefore it is the breath of life itself. (Genesis 2:7.)
We all know that Man was not content with the special status that God had allotted to him, because Man was enticed by Satan to covet the likeness of the wisdom of God, by knowing good and evil. Genesis 3:5-6 records the event: “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be open, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil. When the woman saw that the tree was good for food (gratification of the body), and that it was a delight to the eyes (gratification of the senses), and that the tree was desirable to make one wise (gratification of the ego), she took from its fruit and ate, and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.” And Genesis 3:22, confirms what took place: “Then the Lord God said, behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil.”
Moving a step further towards the understanding of ourselves we must realise that the source of coordinate actions of the body and precise utterances reside in the spirit; there is no other plausible location. Have you ever searched your inner self to find the source of your words? For if you could find it you would be staring in the face of god, with a small “g” because it would be your own face you would be looking at. I hope this is what you were looking for.

 

[Cephus]

Sorry, I missed that: Here is what you want to know.

No, that's not what I want to know, you've just quoted a book without demonstrating that the book is factually true. It really doesn't matter what the Bible says until the Bible is proven to be factually reliable.

 

[free spirit]

No, that's not what I want to know, you've just quoted a book without demonstrating that the book is factually true. It really doesn't matter what the Bible says until the Bible is proven to be factually reliable.

The truth is in each one of us, my answers are only to make you look inside of you. For conviction comes only from within.

 

[Greatest I am]

His own, God only exists in his head, at least his particular version of it.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

You give me no room to explain, I can only say from were you are standing it seems to be that way: it is like the sun seems to rise, but you know it is not true.

You give me no room to explain, .

You have room but nothing to put in it.

That is what happens when you have lost an argument.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

If God was a real entity, not in someone's head, but actually existent in reality. Imaginary friends are not impressive.

John 10; 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
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Psalm 82
82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Regards
DL

 

[Cephus]

The truth is in each one of us, my answers are only to make you look inside of you. For conviction comes only from within.

Conviction doesn't indicate factual truth either. There are people who believe all manner of absurd things. Strength of conviction has nothing to do with factuality of belief.

 

[Cephus]

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Quoting a book of mythology does nothing to prove that God actually exists. Try again.

 

[Cephus]

John 10; 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
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Psalm 82
82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Quoting a book of mythology does nothing to prove that God actually exists. Try again.

 

[free spirit]

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Regards
DL

All my arguments are based on this post of yours; if you believe this post of yours, we are brothers in Christ.

 

[free spirit]

Conviction doesn't indicate factual truth either. There are people who believe all manner of absurd things. Strength of conviction has nothing to do with factuality of belief.

Believe without works is nothing, we can only demonstrate our believe by our lifestyle. God is Holy and if we believe we should be like Him.

 

[Cephus]

Believe without works is nothing, we can only demonstrate our believe by our lifestyle. God is Holy and if we believe we should be like Him.

Works doesn't demonstrate factual truth either.

 

[Greatest I am]

Quoting a book of mythology does nothing to prove that God actually exists. Try again.

The God you keep thinking about he is just a myth to me.

That God has nothing to do with what Gnostic Christians believe.

I am not speaking of the traditional miracle working God who may have never existed. I am saying that the only God you can ever know is the good we find within ourselves. It's the God of the Conscience, or the God of right over wrong. That is quite different from me or someone thinking they are the traditional creator God, or thinking that they are more than anyone else.
Jesus would define this concept as one just seeing that they have joined God’s divine council by embracing his own Christ mind.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Think the Jewish way.

Divine Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

All my arguments are based on this post of yours; if you believe this post of yours, we are brothers in Christ.

I definitely do but if we do not get our Gnostic Christian act together, we will die as a religion or tradition and with the tipping point coming closer, we will die a second death. Being free thinking spiritually driven people is great but if we do not recognized that the right can outperform the left in terms of tribe building and organization we will all lose.

Note how Christian cults argue with each other and have no consensus. If we do the same then we are dead.

We do not even have a creed for crying out laud.

Regards
DL

 

[free spirit]

I definitely do but if we do not get our Gnostic Christian act together, we will die as a religion or tradition and with the tipping point coming closer, we will die a second death. Being free thinking spiritually driven people is great but if we do not recognized that the right can outperform the left in terms of tribe building and organization we will all lose.

Note how Christian cults argue with each other and have no consensus. If we do the same then we are dead.

We do not even have a creed for crying out laud.

Regards
DL

I also feel alone in the world, no one wants to know, but the Lord reassures me from the inside, therefore I am not alone for He is with me, if the words that I speak are His, then they will bear fruits. I am certain that regardless of our circumstances in the end we will be victorious.

 

[free spirit]

We do not even have a creed for crying out laud.

Let us explore if we can begin a creed. First we have to lay the foundation for our creed; and if this creed is different from other Christian creeds we will have to give a solid explanation. Let me begin to explaining to you, what I was given to believe. First, He opened my mind to understand the NT. scriptures, as it happened in Luke 24:45. and that lead me to rightly divide the word. for unless we are able to distinguish the wheat from the tares we cannot move forward.
The following Scriptures are reliable testimony of the existence of stumbling blocks for in Matthew 13:24-25, “He presented another parable to them, saying. ‘The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares also among the wheat, and went away.”’ And in Matthew 18:7, again Jesus said, “Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!”
Also 2Peter 3:16 strongly warned us by saying: “As also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also to the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.” Again 2Peter 2:1-2 is very specific by saying: “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned.”
Also the apostle Paul testified about the future teaching of untruth, for we read in 2Timothy 4:3-4: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and will turn away their earsfrom the truth, and will turn aside to myths.”
Through these reliable and undeniable testimonies, I am fully convinced that early in the Christian era the inspired Holy Word of God was contaminated by the word of man, creating anomalies and ambiguities, making many parts of the New Testament open to speculations, which work against the knowledge of God.

 

[Cephus]

The God you keep thinking about he is just a myth to me.

That God has nothing to do with what Gnostic Christians believe.

I am not speaking of the traditional miracle working God who may have never existed. I am saying that the only God you can ever know is the good we find within ourselves. It's the God of the Conscience, or the God of right over wrong. That is quite different from me or someone thinking they are the traditional creator God, or thinking that they are more than anyone else.
Jesus would define this concept as one just seeing that they have joined God’s divine council by embracing his own Christ mind.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Think the Jewish way.

Divine Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards
DL

It doesn't matter, all gods are myths until demonstrated otherwise.

 

[free spirit]

It doesn't matter, all gods are myths until demonstrated otherwise.

You want to by-pass God's requirement of faith; You can consider that religions are man made, and you will be correct, but you cannot ignore the creation that surrounds you.

 

[Cephus]

You want to by-pass God's requirement of faith; You can consider that religions are man made, and you will be correct, but you cannot ignore the creation that surrounds you.

No but I can ignore the unsupported claims made about the world that surrounds me. So long as all you're doing is making claims without having any evidence to back them up, nobody has any reason to pay any attention. That's the part you don't seem to comprehend, your claims about God are no more worthwhile than people making claims about unicorns and Santa Claus.