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Fake News Site Owner Identified

idav

Being
Premium Member
When something is difficult (if not impossible) to measure, & it's rampant on
both sides, then "equal" (approximately) susceptibility is a reasonable claim.
Or do you say the left is so much worse that it's demonstrable?
You know I saw both sides equally skeptical, left skeptical of all the stories coming from Breitbart, Fox News and such about Hillary being a hitman terrorist sympathizer. The right skeptical about trump being racist bigoted mysoginist and such. As our past discussions you may know I'm not skeptical of trumps own words but rest I am certainly skeptical of. I am skeptical of the varasity of unnamed sources comitting espionage on our political system, not that they may not be truthful but forgive me if trustworthiness of cyber criminals is not high on my list.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You know I saw both sides equally skeptical, left skeptical of all the stories coming from Breitbart, Fox News and such about Hillary being a hitman terrorist sympathizer.
Despite the leftish lust to invoke "false equivalency", I won't encourage this.
I don't see "equal" as applicable (being impossible to measure).
Skepticism should apply to all sides where human beings are involved.
The right skeptical about trump being racist bigoted mysoginist and such. As our past discussions you may know I'm not skeptical of trumps own words but rest I am certainly skeptical of. I am skeptical of the varasity of unnamed sources comitting espionage on our political system, not that they may not be truthful but forgive me if trustworthiness of cyber criminals is not high on my list.
I'm inclined to object....but I don't know what you mean.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
I am rather educated on the subject, and I don't ever go with sources I have not verified so that attempt to justify your position failed and name calling is never good justification for ones argument, it generally means you are on shaky ground to begin with.

I work in Cyber security my friend, have for years, I was in other areas of government security for years before that, I saw it and see it everyday. You believe what you want, but from my perspective you are in denial. Political affiliation, liberal, conservative, race creed or color, does not matter. If we are talking humans, they are all equally susceptible.

I didn't say any of those things matter. But how you educate yourself matters. To say otherwise is just wrong.

And I was not calling you names, simply pointing out that there are plenty of idiots out there who dig their own grave, then complain they are stuck in a hole.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
When something is difficult (if not impossible) to measure, & it's rampant on
both sides, then "equal" (approximately) susceptibility is a reasonable claim.
Or do you say the left is so much worse that it's demonstrable?

Who said anything about left or right? I'm simply saying there is plenty one can do to insulate themselves from fake news. Will it work 100% of the time? Who knows? But to claim we are all equally susceptible is absurd.

It's like claiming cars break down, they all break down. Therefor we are all equally likely to break down regardless of what we do. Of course that isn't even remotely true.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Who said anything about left or right? I'm simply saying there is plenty one can do to insulate themselves from fake news. Will it work 100% of the time? Who knows? But to claim we are all equally susceptible is absurd.

It's like claiming cars break down, they all break down. Therefor we are all equally likely to break down regardless of what we do. Of course that isn't even remotely true.
Answered in #142.
 

habiru

Active Member
You know I saw both sides equally skeptical, left skeptical of all the stories coming from Breitbart, Fox News and such about Hillary being a hitman terrorist sympathizer. The right skeptical about trump being racist bigoted mysoginist and such. As our past discussions you may know I'm not skeptical of trumps own words but rest I am certainly skeptical of. I am skeptical of the varasity of unnamed sources comitting espionage on our political system, not that they may not be truthful but forgive me if trustworthiness of cyber criminals is not high on my list.
Hillary had claimed that she did not know that having another off the record cellphone and Email was forbidden. But every cellphone that she had was crushed into little tiny pieces and her email server were bleached. And in order for her to use these unofficial cellphones without being traced. That she has to go downstairs out of the building even if it is rainy or snowing in order to keep from being tracked. And then she tries to say since Colon Pyle had once an unofficial email account, that it were okay..
But from what i had known, in order to hack into someone else email account, that they must have an address. And the only ones that had her address were here associates. .

And so please forgive us all for not trusting Hillary, that had lied.

And why would Jesse want Obama to give Hillary a pardon if she did not do anything wrong?


 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Hillary had claimed that she did not know that having another off the record cellphone and Email was forbidden. But every cellphone that she had was crushed into little tiny pieces and her email server were bleached. And in order for her to use these unofficial cellphones without being traced. That she has to go downstairs out of the building even if it is rainy or snowing in order to keep from being tracked. And then she tries to say since Colon Pyle had once an unofficial email account, that it were okay..
But from what i had known, in order to hack into someone else email account, that they must have an address. And the only ones that had her address were here associates. .
Gadzooks is Hillary a 007?
And so please forgive us all for not trusting Hillary, that had lied.
I hear Hillarys some sot of Rambo too.
 

habiru

Active Member
Gadzooks is Hillary a 007?

I hear Hillarys some sot of Rambo too.

No, she is all about money. George Soros is paying her and the rest a lot of money to protect his investments. And no, she isn't a Rambo. But maybe a Rambo with dyslexia. Rambo saves lives, but she destroys them, like the ones in the Benghazi attack. The four Americans knew that there is going to be.riot and asked Hillary to send back up. But Hillary told the soldiers to move out from there, but didn't informed the four Americans, but she left them there to die. But if it were Rambo, he would came in like storm and rescue them all and blown up all of the enemies.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In the news today....
Washington Post Appends "Russian Propaganda Fake News" Story, Admits It May Be Fake | Zero Hedge
In the latest example why the "mainstream media" is facing a historic crisis of confidence among its readership, facing unprecedented blowback following Craig Timberg November 24 Washington Post story "Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say", on Wednesday a lengthy editor's note appeared on top of the original article in which the editor not only distances the WaPo from the "experts" quoted in the original article whose "work" served as the basis for the entire article (and which became the most read WaPo story the day it was published) but also admits the Post could not "vouch for the validity of PropOrNot's finding regarding any individual media outlet", in effect admitting the entire story may have been, drumroll "fake news" and conceding the Bezos-owned publication may have engaged in defamation by smearing numerous websites - Zero Hedge included - with patently false and unsubstantiated allegations.

It was the closest the Washington Post would come to formally retracting the story, which has now been thoroughly discredited not only by outside commentators, but by its own editor.
 
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