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Fake News

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I dunno, one got elected in 2016. Maybe it is to keep up appearances?
We gotta look at the primaries.
Voters really do pick out who runs for Prez under their
party banner. Can't blame the oligarchy, the patriarchy,
the corporations, puppeteers, or the deep state.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
We gotta look at the primaries.
Voters really do pick out who runs for Prez under their
party banner. Can't blame the oligarchy, the patriarchy,
the corporations, puppeteers, or the deep state.
I was really excited when the Democratic primaries kicked off. There were quite a few candidates I had high hopes for but I was apprehensive voters would want Obama 3 and pick Biden. Turns out I wasn't far off.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I find the news to be incomplete at times. Sometimes it seems intentional, and other times just an oversight.
Leaving out essential information seems to be an epidemic among news outlets these days. All they really want is just enough information to generate a really hot-button headline, with no actual resolution of the story: to keep you checking back for the 'rest of the story'.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Two quick points:
1.People should make Google (or some other search engine) their BFF instead of accepting things at face value just because they may agree with what they read or hear.
2.Check periodically sources you don't like nor trust in order to try and avoid your own "confirmation bias".

Also, I use "Yahoo News" as my homepage as it links to numerous sites that cover a wide spectrum, but I also know there are other news sources that do much the same. On t.v., I "channel surf" news sources-- yes, even the Fox Propaganda Channel.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
News media are creating an echo chamber to
believe it.

OAN has been playing this
portion of a video from a longer discussion about fighting
voter fraud. In context, it's clear that Joe isn't saying he
has an organization to commit fraud.

That's it...1 guy using his daughter's mail-in ballot,
& one gal who committed fraud in a 2018 election.

OAN and Brietbart are the ones promulgating the Trump falsehoods. Even Fox, except for talking heads like Hannity, has largely stopped kissing Trump's ***. The so-called mainstream media, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC have been reporting verifiable facts.

Step one for wanna-be-rulers-for-life; eliminate the opposition press. In Trump's case, in this country, he couldn't eliminate it, so he convinced millions that the main-stream media is wrong about everything. That process started long before he became candidate Trump.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
my wife has a coworker that voted for Biden
and when asked of Biden's speeches were noted.......
no....they were not

after voting for Biden .....that women THEN took a moment to review the man she voted for
and THEN spent the night kicking herself in the *** for having been sooooooooooo stupid


Ah. Anecdotes. Third-party hearsay stories. They tell you all you need to know in life.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
All one has to do is see for themselves... Biden didn't even know what state he was in, among others.

On the other hand, we have the clear, concise, rational words of Our-Great-Orange-Leader:

And what about that batch of military ballots that came in. And even though I won the military by a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about that? A large group of ballots came in. I think it was to Fulton County and they just happened to be 100 percent for Trump — for Biden, even though Trump won the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But these ballots were 100 percent for Biden. And, do you know about that? A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. Does anybody know about it?​

Want more...
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
On the other hand, we have the clear, concise, rational words of Our-Great-Orange-Leader:

And what about that batch of military ballots that came in. And even though I won the military by a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about that? A large group of ballots came in. I think it was to Fulton County and they just happened to be 100 percent for Trump — for Biden, even though Trump won the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But these ballots were 100 percent for Biden. And, do you know about that? A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. Does anybody know about it?​

Want more...
I dont think that is going to effectively improve bibbly blub Bidens obvious incoherence and memory anytime soon.

Can't wait for the inauguration speech and first state of the union address. Hopefully he will still have Obummers teleprompter on standby. If Biden can still read that is.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm having some fun watching OAN, which is the leading
news source advocating for Trump's overturning the
election results so that he can serve for a 2nd term.

I haven't delved into every piece of "evidence" they've
offered, but several are illuminating.

I've covered this one before. OAN has been playing this
portion of a video from a longer discussion about fighting
voter fraud. In context, it's clear that Joe isn't saying he
has an organization to commit fraud. But this out of
context clip makes it seem an admission.
(Joe is not the sharpest tool in the shed.)
Viral Posts Take Biden Quote on Voter Fraud Out of Context - FactCheck.org

OK, that one is a pretty bad mis-representation.
But today they made another claim that Michigan
clerks are being prosecuted for felony election fraud.
It was proof that Trump won in my state.
Curious why they didn't cite any names, I searched
for "michigan clerk felony vote fraud".
What I found....
Michigan man facing felony charges for voter fraud, AG says
REPORT: MI City Clerk Facing 6 Felony Counts of Voter Fraud Still on Payroll With No Court Date in Sight

That's it...1 guy using his daughter's mail-in ballot,
& one gal who committed fraud in a 2018 election.
I don't think these 2 people demined Trump the
thousands of votes he needed to win the state.

Tis no wonder that people are getting all fired up,
believing there's massive 2020 election fraud.
News media are creating an echo chamber to
believe it. Reminds me of how the left went
after Trump in 2016....wild claims about Hitler
& Russia.
So be careful folks....don't trust news sources
to be honest. Listen to opposing sides, & seek
independent sources to get a wider picture of
events. We'll be less likely to be misled.
Having once naively followed questionable American news sources in the past, I find myself being far more skeptical of news in general nowadays. I mean our news sources are pretty biased but America seems to go above and beyond. It’s...odd to me.
But I am surprised that Fox News has a shred of journalistic integrity. They were always the go to for illustrating the difference between propaganda and news for us in the outside wilds of the world. Guess OAN has decided to steal their crown.

I don’t know if I’d go so far as to compare the Donald to Hitler. But his rise to power has helped me to see how such a figure can rise in the first place. Like contextually speaking I “get it” now. Make of that what you will
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
I'm having some fun watching OAN, which is the leading
news source advocating for Trump's overturning the
election results so that he can serve for a 2nd term.

I haven't delved into every piece of "evidence" they've
offered, but several are illuminating.

I've covered this one before. OAN has been playing this
portion of a video from a longer discussion about fighting
voter fraud. In context, it's clear that Joe isn't saying he
has an organization to commit fraud. But this out of
context clip makes it seem an admission.
(Joe is not the sharpest tool in the shed.)
Viral Posts Take Biden Quote on Voter Fraud Out of Context - FactCheck.org

OK, that one is a pretty bad mis-representation.
But today they made another claim that Michigan
clerks are being prosecuted for felony election fraud.
It was proof that Trump won in my state.
Curious why they didn't cite any names, I searched
for "michigan clerk felony vote fraud".
What I found....
Michigan man facing felony charges for voter fraud, AG says
REPORT: MI City Clerk Facing 6 Felony Counts of Voter Fraud Still on Payroll With No Court Date in Sight

That's it...1 guy using his daughter's mail-in ballot,
& one gal who committed fraud in a 2018 election.
I don't think these 2 people demined Trump the
thousands of votes he needed to win the state.

Tis no wonder that people are getting all fired up,
believing there's massive 2020 election fraud.
News media are creating an echo chamber to
believe it. Reminds me of how the left went
after Trump in 2016....wild claims about Hitler
& Russia.
So be careful folks....don't trust news sources
to be honest. Listen to opposing sides, & seek
independent sources to get a wider picture of
events. We'll be less likely to be misled.

So.. OAN is the leading news source advocating for Trump? o_O
I agree with your statement: don't trust news sources to be honest.

Like... the reporting on that phone call Trump made to the Georgia Secretary of State. News reporting on that tended to be very poor indeed. The Fake News portrayed Trump like he was a Mob Boss when he was asking the Georgia Secretary of State to please make sure the elections in Georgia are fair and legal. That is really uncalled for bias in the news media. So don't just trust news sources to be honest about even basic stuff.

If you are wondering why people are getting fired up about election fraud in 2020... I think it is because Trump appears to really truly believe it was stolen. In other words, he doesn't appear to just be putting on a show. And people take election integrity very seriously - far more seriously than they take any difference of political opinion. It can't be dismissed by the media because Americans feel personally disenfranchised.

The reason it's believable, that the election was stolen, is because of the impeachment fiasco. Trump supporters believe that Never-Trumpers will do absolutely anything to get rid of Trump - that includes lying and cheating in an election. So every refusal to audit the election gives the impression of hiding wrong-doing. Small claims like the ones you claim to debunk aren't enough to convince people that the election was fair.
 
Like... the reporting on that phone call Trump made to the Georgia Secretary of State. News reporting on that tended to be very poor indeed. The Fake News portrayed Trump like he was a Mob Boss when he was asking the Georgia Secretary of State to please make sure the elections in Georgia are fair and legal.
“Please make sure the elections in Georgia are fair and legal”?

If that’s what he said it wouldn’t even be newsworthy. Did you listen to the audio? They tried to tell him how they are ensuring the elections are fair and legal. He wasn’t having any of it.
 
If you are wondering why people are getting fired up about election fraud in 2020... I think it is because Trump appears to really truly believe it was stolen. In other words, he doesn't appear to just be putting on a show.
Respectfully: if you think you can tell the difference, and if you think the difference matters, you are exactly the kind of sucker charlatans like Trump prey upon.

Trump has an obvious tell. When he is presented with facts that contradict his illusion, he interrupts and changes the subject. He did this repeatedly on the call with Raffensberger.

If you “sincerely” thought your car was stolen, and the police said they have it, you wouldn’t interrupt, repeat it was stolen, threaten them if they don’t find it, and change the subject to your wallet which was also stolen. Go listen to the call audio. That’s Trump. He has one goal: change the result.

It’s so obvious that Trump is not doing any of this in good faith. How can you possibly not see it?
 
And people take election integrity very seriously - far more seriously than they take any difference of political opinion. It can't be dismissed by the media because Americans feel personally disenfranchised.
Tell me about it. The Trump Party sued in Texas to have my legally cast drive-thru vote and 100,000 others like it thrown out.

They also tried to throw out millions of legally cast votes in Pennsylvania.

Trump also tried to hamstring the USPS’ ability to handle mail in votes, but he was thwarted.

Now the President has tried to bully and threaten state election officials into changing the results.

I’m glad Americans have taken these threats by the President to our election integrity seriously.

So every refusal to audit the election gives the impression of hiding wrong-doing.
Georgia did three counts, one of them by hand. They thoroughly investigated the absurd allegations by Giuliani and other Trumpworld trolls. Raffensberger tried to explain this to Trump on their call Saturday but Trump kept interrupting - Trump probably let them talk for 3 minutes of the 102 minute call.

Here’s a Republican election official in Georgia explaining for the hundredth time how thoroughly things were checked. Biden still wins in this version of reality though so it’s not the version Trumpers take “very seriously”.

 
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So Trumpworld is really concerned about election integrity ... except when they are threatening election integrity in such a way as to advantage Trump.

And they quickly lose interest in election integrity when the facts confirm Biden won Georgia. Why is that?

Here are the facts about election integrity in Georgia ... careful! It’s only interesting if you actually care about election integrity. Not just changing the outcome for Trump.

PolitiFact - Here’s why Georgia’s Republican officials are confident in their presidential election results
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
“Please make sure the elections in Georgia are fair and legal”?

If that’s what he said it wouldn’t even be newsworthy. Did you listen to the audio? They tried to tell him how they are ensuring the elections are fair and legal. He wasn’t having any of it.


“Please make sure the elections in Georgia are fair and legal”? That seems to me to be a pretty fair and honest interpretation of what Trump meant during his hour long call, Spinks. You see, whether he was doing anything nefarious all depends on what you mean by "is".
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
About Hitler, Trump has proven to be much more like Mussolini. And he's proven to be a true authoritarian who demands the rule of Trump over the rule of law.
He's a showman. He's shown time and time and time again he doesn't have what it takes to be a dictator and isn't interested in being one. If he were a dictator,he would have used covid to seize power. But he didn't and instead demonstrated he graduated from Roger Stone University with flying colors. It's path is basically maximum attention for minimal effort. Being a real dictator requires far more effort than Trump has ever shown potential for.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I was really excited when the Democratic primaries kicked off. There were quite a few candidates I had high hopes for but I was apprehensive voters would want Obama 3 and pick Biden. Turns out I wasn't far off.
Riding on Obama's coattails doesn't even begin to describe it.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
OAN and Brietbart are the ones promulgating the Trump falsehoods. Even Fox, except for talking heads like Hannity, has largely stopped kissing Trump's ***. The so-called mainstream media, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC have been reporting verifiable facts.

Step one for wanna-be-rulers-for-life; eliminate the opposition press. In Trump's case, in this country, he couldn't eliminate it, so he convinced millions that the main-stream media is wrong about everything. That process started long before he became candidate Trump.

Mainstream media certainly gets enough things completely wrong for what look like partisan reasons to justify a lot of skepticism.

See MAGA kids

Or just nonsense and bad reporting.

See yahoo news for the latest discovery of noahs ark.
 
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