jacquie4000
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Yes this sounds to me like human nature an honest answer....good post
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Fascination With Execution
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Yes this sounds to me like human nature an honest answer....good post
cardero
Citizen Mod
jacquie4000 said:
Why does one go to horror movies?
Because one will never experience that kind of fear that comes from the monsters depicted on the screen.
Why does one go to action movies?
Because one will never have the experience of becoming part of her Majestrys Secret Service.
If this is too ficticious for you.....
Why do some people watch porn?
Because one may never have the experience of being with one of the people seen in those movies?
Why do some people watch documentaries on the Second World War?
Because most people cannot revisit the experience of what it was like to be in Gernany at the time this war took place.
Buttercup
Veteran Member
I'd say curiosity is the first motive. I know it was for me in viewing this video. Also, after thinking about it some more....if I knew he had been shot in the head or stabbed or torn apart limb by limb, I wouldn't have watched it. I don't think I could have taken it. But, I thought a hanging would not be bloody or as emotionally graphic. My heart did start to beat faster...but some of the images in the video are being shown on the nightly news right now so it really wasn't very upsetting at all. As I said before, I think I would have clicked out if it was too disturbing.jacquie4000 said:
Our media is getting so much more graphic in general....I can't believe the medical operations shown on TV these days. I watched a woman get a new stomach, liver and several other organs on television recently. Her entire stomach cavity was opened up. You would NEVER have seen anything like that even five years ago on TV.
So, I don't know....maybe we're becoming too immune to suffering?
jacquie4000
Well-Known Member
Yes I agree I am not into servere graphics...can't take it.
ChrisP
Veteran Member
Alright, I've got the transcript here (not available on the web, so I had to use notepad 
Rose Dyson, American Writer - There's Evidence to demonstrate that the... uhh... the average young person growing up today sees more violence through... uh... through Popular culture uhh... than... uhh... would ever occur in real life.
These are young people, who don't have the social context of how violence has informed our human condition over the years, and so what they are left with is the uh.... glamourisation of weapons and violence in conflict resolution.
<discussion regarding Cannibal Corpse cover art.>
Keith Kahn-Harris, British Sociologist - On the one hand, as you see in lyrics with bands like Cannibal Corpse, there's this fascination with the possibilities of death, and the body.
On the other hand there's this terrifying fear of it. There's an almost obsessive desire to explore that which is dangerous that which is scary, that which points towards obliteration, formlessness. A delight in exploring the body and the ways in which it can be cut up, destroyed and mutilated.
That is a very primal desire that we all have.
There does seem to be a connection between how acquainted we are with our own mortality, and how much we want to see mortality and death expressed in our art and culture.
If you look back a few generations, you would expect several of your siblings to have died <artwork of a child's sickbed during the 19th and early 20th century>. When these people died they would have been laid out in your front room, you would go and see them there, then afterwards you would sit to a meal that would probably contain meat, and you'd be well aware that this slab of whatever it was had been living and breathing a few days ago, and it may very well have been you that cut it's throat.
You knew that death is part of the very essence of live and as we've begun to forget this, we've started to crave images of death more and more.
- Metal: A headbangers Journey - Sam Dunn 2005
I think the very last part is the most pertinent. We do not have REALISTIC and first hand experience of death anymore. Often we don't see our own family members demise and the majority of us DEFINITELY aren't involved in the slaughter of our food.
Real death shocks us and can make us feel quite bad (I couldn't think of a better word for bad), so we avoid it. I think it's healthy to see death, unfortunately the only view of it we get now are poor digital replicas beamed across the internet.
How many people have seen, right up close the death of anything, let alone someone we are close to. And of the few of us that have, especially those under the age of 45-50, was it expected? Peaceful? abrupt? Violent. The answer is usually the first two to that question.
Rose Dyson, American Writer - There's Evidence to demonstrate that the... uhh... the average young person growing up today sees more violence through... uh... through Popular culture uhh... than... uhh... would ever occur in real life.
These are young people, who don't have the social context of how violence has informed our human condition over the years, and so what they are left with is the uh.... glamourisation of weapons and violence in conflict resolution.
<discussion regarding Cannibal Corpse cover art.>
Keith Kahn-Harris, British Sociologist - On the one hand, as you see in lyrics with bands like Cannibal Corpse, there's this fascination with the possibilities of death, and the body.
On the other hand there's this terrifying fear of it. There's an almost obsessive desire to explore that which is dangerous that which is scary, that which points towards obliteration, formlessness. A delight in exploring the body and the ways in which it can be cut up, destroyed and mutilated.
That is a very primal desire that we all have.
There does seem to be a connection between how acquainted we are with our own mortality, and how much we want to see mortality and death expressed in our art and culture.
If you look back a few generations, you would expect several of your siblings to have died <artwork of a child's sickbed during the 19th and early 20th century>. When these people died they would have been laid out in your front room, you would go and see them there, then afterwards you would sit to a meal that would probably contain meat, and you'd be well aware that this slab of whatever it was had been living and breathing a few days ago, and it may very well have been you that cut it's throat.
You knew that death is part of the very essence of live and as we've begun to forget this, we've started to crave images of death more and more.
- Metal: A headbangers Journey - Sam Dunn 2005
I think the very last part is the most pertinent. We do not have REALISTIC and first hand experience of death anymore. Often we don't see our own family members demise and the majority of us DEFINITELY aren't involved in the slaughter of our food.
Real death shocks us and can make us feel quite bad (I couldn't think of a better word for bad
), so we avoid it. I think it's healthy to see death, unfortunately the only view of it we get now are poor digital replicas beamed across the internet.How many people have seen, right up close the death of anything, let alone someone we are close to. And of the few of us that have, especially those under the age of 45-50, was it expected? Peaceful? abrupt? Violent. The answer is usually the first two to that question.
tcprowling
Junior Member
Our fasination with death goes way back look at the roman days and the gladiators... as late as the 1800 public exacutions were a social event. Death and what might or might not happen after it is the basis of our fasination
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Majikthise
Guest
For me it's history happening now right before my eyes.
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Majikthise
Guest
I don't even like viewing an open casket, but I do because I'm expected to.
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Majikthise
Guest
ChrisP said:Not liking it has everything to do with death's reality Mr Thighs, but if we ignored everything we didn't like George W Bush would have got a second term.
Tell me about it! My daughter got sick at 3 in the morning last week and I had to clean it up, no ignoring that. To be truthful though, the past ten years has jaded me to that kind of stuff.
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Majikthise
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jacquie4000
Well-Known Member
I check back to look back at the other thread from time to time ....it still is amazing, most people do not want to watch it but they still are complelled the click on that link.
porkchop
I'm Heffer!!!
jacquie4000 said:
I clicked on the thread and thought about watching the video; its that curiosity in us all, i think, that makes us want to take a peak, but i dint, cuz i dont wish to see any man die, good or bad, im not for the death penalty anyway, and i think it would have been more punishment to him to keep him locked up, but i understand that there would always be a threat of people trying to break him out; they did what they felt was right.
( sorry for rambling!!
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Ozzie
Well-Known Member
jacquie4000 said:
I didn't watch it (yet). For a religious fundamentalist this serves as double titillation. Firstly the forbidden fruit scenario must be run to access the material. Secondly, the meaty images serve as cogent reinforcement that we all will face our judgment day, as is their belief.
Oz
Radio Frequency X
World Leader Pretend
jacquie4000 said:
I wanted to see him hanged.
jacquie4000 said:
I viewed it, thought it was a crappy video, and moved on with my day. There is nothing scary about watching someone die - it isn't a sacred moment. It was a just end to an evil life. There was no suffering or anything like that. Saddam alive - Saddam dead.
