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Fascists in control of India
- Thread starter Lyndon
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Did you mean "non-Muslims" or "non-Hindus"? The article says that Modi is a Hindu nationalist.
It's always a good idea to read the articles one links.
Then read one's post to ensure that they comport with each other.
Interesting and informative opinion piece.
youre right I edited it
ajay0
Well-Known Member
The Hindus form the third largest major religion in the world, and they essentially get along well with other religious people in India like the Jews, Zoroastrians, Bahais, Tibetan Buddhists, Syrian christians all of whom had come to India as persecuted refugees in various points of time in history and were accepted.
In fact India and Turkey are considered to be the only countries on earth which have never persecuted their Jewish population.
Hindus issues are mainly with fundamentalist muslims and christians of a prosleytising nature and the history of crusades, inquisitions and jihads, destruction of temples, for the past few centuries have created a lot of ill-will and bitterness between these communities.
However the Hindus have never engaged in genocides like the Armenian genocide in which over one million Christians were eliminated by the muslim Turks due to intolerance.
en.wikipedia.org
The Jews have a history of being oppressed by European christians and it did not start with the nazi genocide in the twentieth century.
en.wikipedia.org
India have similarly not engaged in wars against muslim nations like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and other countries which are regularly bombed on the pretext of terrorism by western nations.
theintercept.com
The usual Sunni-Shia-Ahmediya-Sufi riots and bloodshed that takes place in other islamic countries have not taken place in India , and for this reason many Indian muslims of minority sects have considered India to be a safer abode for them.
Also India has provided aid and disaster relief to muslim nations like Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, Maldives, Bangladesh, Lebanon, Syria and other countries.
Many Hindus also visit sufi and Christian places of worship due to devotional purposes and blessings. There is a Hindu temple devoted to Shirdi Sai Baba, who is actually an enlightened sufi sage.
It is only when fundamentalism and intolerance rises up in some Abrahamic fundamentalists that these issues crop up along with historical memories of oppression, and Hindu nationalism is just an unfortunate reaction to them.
In fact India and Turkey are considered to be the only countries on earth which have never persecuted their Jewish population.
Hindus issues are mainly with fundamentalist muslims and christians of a prosleytising nature and the history of crusades, inquisitions and jihads, destruction of temples, for the past few centuries have created a lot of ill-will and bitterness between these communities.
However the Hindus have never engaged in genocides like the Armenian genocide in which over one million Christians were eliminated by the muslim Turks due to intolerance.
Armenian genocide - Wikipedia
The Jews have a history of being oppressed by European christians and it did not start with the nazi genocide in the twentieth century.
Anti-Semitism in Christianity - Wikipedia
India have similarly not engaged in wars against muslim nations like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and other countries which are regularly bombed on the pretext of terrorism by western nations.
How Many Muslim Countries Has the U.S. Bombed Or Occupied Since 1980?
The people who denounce the violence of Islam live in countries whose governments unleash more violence than anyone else by far.
theintercept.com
The usual Sunni-Shia-Ahmediya-Sufi riots and bloodshed that takes place in other islamic countries have not taken place in India , and for this reason many Indian muslims of minority sects have considered India to be a safer abode for them.
Also India has provided aid and disaster relief to muslim nations like Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, Maldives, Bangladesh, Lebanon, Syria and other countries.
Many Hindus also visit sufi and Christian places of worship due to devotional purposes and blessings. There is a Hindu temple devoted to Shirdi Sai Baba, who is actually an enlightened sufi sage.
It is only when fundamentalism and intolerance rises up in some Abrahamic fundamentalists that these issues crop up along with historical memories of oppression, and Hindu nationalism is just an unfortunate reaction to them.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Turkey has done that, thiugh the Ottomans didn't single them out and placed similar restrictions and taxes on them that all non-Muslims were subject to. Amd in modern times it's gotten bad enough to drive a swell in Jews leaving Turkey.
Byzantium is what was more comparable to India.
Apologies for quibbling but I think your article stated that they called for genocide of Muslims, not "non-hindus"
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
uninformed baised post. we have one muslim majority state and three christian majority states, and upward of 170 million muslims (the third largest muslim population in the world). india is a country where shias and sunnis exist together in peace. india has excellent relations with all muslim countries other than pakistan. india has a very fair constitution drafted 75 years ago by an assembly which had members of all religions including muslims, sikhs, christians, buddhists, jains, zoroastrians and jews. india has a very strong judicial system. any unlawful treatment to any minority will not be tolerated by it. the benefits of government schemes go equally to people of all religions. for example, free ration to people below poverty line. the scheme is in operation for the last four years and will continue for five more years.
indian governments, national and state have been elected in a very democratic way for the last 75 years. apart from western media, where do you find atrocities on muslims or other non-hindus?
as for being a hindu nationalist, what is wrong if modi is a hindu nationalist. the nation is important for people of all religions. muslims participate in all spheres of life in india. they are in business, army, police, admininstration and politics. muslims too are muslims and nationalists. muslim soldiers have died in wars and have been decorated for their bravery. i too am a hindu and a nationalist. i do not see anything wrong in that.
modi's has won three states just a week ago, replacing the dynastic nehru-gandhi party in two states, rajasthan and chhattisgarh. that speaks for popularity of modi among the indian people. modi has maintained his position as the most popular leader in india as well as in the whole world. just three days ago, even putin agreed that no one can defeat modi.
indian governments, national and state have been elected in a very democratic way for the last 75 years. apart from western media, where do you find atrocities on muslims or other non-hindus?
as for being a hindu nationalist, what is wrong if modi is a hindu nationalist. the nation is important for people of all religions. muslims participate in all spheres of life in india. they are in business, army, police, admininstration and politics. muslims too are muslims and nationalists. muslim soldiers have died in wars and have been decorated for their bravery. i too am a hindu and a nationalist. i do not see anything wrong in that.
modi's has won three states just a week ago, replacing the dynastic nehru-gandhi party in two states, rajasthan and chhattisgarh. that speaks for popularity of modi among the indian people. modi has maintained his position as the most popular leader in india as well as in the whole world. just three days ago, even putin agreed that no one can defeat modi.
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Modi gets many votes because of the booming economy, not because he's a Hindu.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
and because of many policies which have helped every one, hindus and muslims equally like free rations to poor, loans and land to build houses, financial help for toilet facilities, supply of drinking water, medical subsidy, provision of cooking gas, free financial help to farmers, help for students, special help for female education, help for marriage of girls, etc. he can do that because indian economy is one of the fastest growing today. he has challenged that indian economy will be the world's third largest at the end of his third term surpassing that of germany and japan.
The NRI pilgrimage industry will take off. What used to be 6 hours of hot bumpy drive on a rough gravel road is now two hours on a modern freeway. This 'radical Hinduism' stuff is western media bias, overblown, fueled often by evangelical Christianity. I'm glad this forum benefits from your 'insider' perspective. The outsider perspective listens to Fox news.
Orbit
I'm a planet
Don't you think you're painting a rather rosy picture given the violence between Hindus and Muslims?
Shhh, that's all a Christian conspiracy to make Hindus look bad! (Because Western Christians really care so much about Muslims.) It's all made up!
Orbit
I'm a planet
It's a good thing Hindus don't have the same level of gun ownership as in the U.S.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
no, i am not. we know that all kinds of muslim terror outfits are active in india. they include is, al-qaeda, pakistan's isi, lashkar-e-tayyaba, jaish-e-muhammad, hizb-ul-mujahideen, jamaat-ul-mujahideen bangladesh, popular front of india (Islamic terrorism - Wikipedia), and saudi and uae trained clerics. these misguide muslims.
note: i have removed the name of indian mujahideen which is defunct now, and added popular front of india which has been active in the recent past.
but indian security agencies have been able to control them. majority of muslims are not involved in terrorism but in their life and bread. they work with hindus, are either employed by hindus or employ hindus. majority of muslims do not vote for modi's party, but some do because of its policies which have benefited them. the recent victory of modi's party in three states is because of that.
inter religious riots do occur and a small number of people from both communities get killed, but that does not change the overall pattern of life in india. we are sort of used to it. we don't even get agitated by them, they effect some areas temporarily. the recent riot in delhi in which some 53 people were killed had no effect in area where i live.
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JIMMY12345
Active Member
Link just shows a circle - is it working?
yes the link is still working in usa
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Neither BJP nor RSS have ever thought or acted like that. They cannot. Indian Supreme Court would not allow it. BJP will loose its status as a political party if it ever does that. As for articles in Western media, they are for the West and not for India.
A sizable number of Muslims vote for BJP. The number is going to increase this time because of the fair distribution of benefits to all people.
We will know that on June 4 when the results of the national elections come in.