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FredVB
Member
How much have you heard about the Forks Over Knives way? There are such healthy benefits with it that I don't see with any other ways, but there is still concerted push of information against it, certainly from those with vested interest in businesses that this way would go contrary to. So very many still do not hear of it, many of those who do already have a negative view of it, to not consider it. Yet this way does not have to be expensive and may help avoid costly medication.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I haven't seen evidence to say a vegan diet is superior. Indeed, most of the Blue Zones eat meat. Not much, but they still eat it. It's probably why it's not more widely circulated.
FredVB
Member
I only brought up a very healthy way of eating. Being vegan is not mentioned anywhere in it, and it is not at all relevant to this if I am. What is so healthy is so healthy.
There are of course unhealthy diets among vegans.
You don't have to consider and choose this healthy way. But it is there, the information about it is there showing it.
There is much more of evidence from sources than what is found from Loma Linda, a blue zone, showing it. There are studies. The China Study is a really big one, showing this, but there are plenty of others. The doctors who authored the book The Forks Over Knives Plan, which I found first, and others too, have saved lives of their patients with this way. That book shows more of the evidences, there is certainly also the site for it.
Here is relevant text from the book:
The Forks Over Knives Plan
Alona Pulde, MD, and Matthew Lederman, MD
Americans are sick, tired, and overmedicated. Every fifty-three seconds someone in the United States dies of heart disease, which, as the nation's number one killer, claims about 600,000 lives per year. Cancer, now the second leading cause of death, takes the lives of more than 1500 people per day. Meanwhile, nearly 10 percent of the population has diabetes; and our children are getting sicker, as indicated by the startling fact that obesity has more than doubled in children and tripled in adolescents in the past thirty years. We have turned to the medical system for help, and it has delivered medication in a big way: Nearly 70 percent of Americans are on at least one prescription drug, more than 50 percent take two, and 20 percent are on five or more prescription drugs. Despite the billions of dollars being spent on pharmaceuticals, the needle almost never moves downward on the rates of chronic disease, and the people still feel lousy and sick.
Health statistics aren't just about numbers on a page or data on a statistician's ledger. These are our mothers, fathers, siblings, and children. These are our friends. The health crisis is taking a real toll on our daily lives, profoundly affecting the personal happiness and productivity of millions of us every single day.
There is good news, though. Research is revealing with greater certainty that we understand the main cause of this epidemic: an American diet that derives more than 90 percent of what we eat from animal-based and processed foods. Understanding the cause means there's hope! The research tells us that if we change to an entirely different way of eating, we can dramatically alter our health destiny.
Modern pioneers like T. Colin Cambell, PhD; Caldwell Esselstyn, MD; Dean Ornish, MD; John McDougall, MD; Neal Barnard, MD; and others are leading the charge. Thanks to these doctors and researchers, along with an emerging body of scientific evidence from all corners, we now know that a whole-food, plant-based diet is more powerful at preventing and treating chronic diseases than any medication or procedure. We are so convinced by the evidence that we believe if this diet came in a pill, it would be heralded on the front pages of newspapers and magazines around the world for its effectiveness.
There is a movement under way as hundreds of thousands of people, if not more, are trying the whole-food, plant-based lifestyle for themselves and finding great success. We have personally seen remarkable results in our own medical practice, not to mention experienced it in our own lives. Here are just a few of the significant life-changing results you may expect:
Prevent and reverse the leading chronic ailments. A whole-food, plant-based diet can prevent, halt, and even reverse heart disease and diabetes. Other diseases that are also positively impacted by this type of diet include: high cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, and overall mortality. Cancer is also significantly affected by this diet. In fact, the foods that make up this diet are the exact same foods that were recommended in the first "surviving cancer" dietary recommendations. There is also evidence that a plant-based diet may reduce the risk of diverticular disease, gallstones, rheumatoid arthritis, gout, and kidney disease. Furthermore, after switching to a plant-based diet, people routinely report experiencing or seeing in others improvements in a range of ailments, including osteoporosis, arthritis, headaches, acne, asthma, sexual dysfunction, reflux, lupus, inflammatory bowel disease, constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, dementia, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, infertility, insomnia, and sleep apnea. They even find themselves experiencing fewer or less intense colds, viruses, and allergies.
Reach your ideal weight. Humans and their domesticated pets are the only earthly creatures that suffer from being overweight and obese ... in spite of the fact that we're also the only creatures who practice portion control! Why is this the case? It's simple. All the other animals on earth are eating foods that are appropriate for their species. If we also eat foods that are appropriate for our species -- whole, plant-based foods -- then we, too, will be able to eat without portion control and will naturally reach a comfortable weight.
Improve mental clarity Eating a whole-food, plant-based diet improves cognitive function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer's disease. Most people experience greater clarity of thought, improved ability to concentrate, and better memory.
Experience only positive effects, not "side effects". Perhaps you would choose to transition to a plant-based diet to reverse heart disease or reduce your diabetes medications, but now you could see that you would welcome into your life an abundance of positive effects. These can include better mood, sounder sleep, improved bowel function, and more vibrant skin. You will have more energy to do the things you love, like playing with your children or grandchildren, biking, gardening, walking, swimming. You may even want to exercise more. By contrast, as we'll discuss more, medical procedures and medications can have all sorts of major unintended negative consequences.
Have a sense of well-being and empowerment. You are in control of your health. You do not have to settle for compromised health or believe that you are destined to succumb to chronic disease. You can live with less fear that a heart attack can happen at any time or that you will be struck by the same chronic ailment from which other members of your family have suffered.
Save time and money. Whether you have health insurance or not, you will likely have to pay out of pocket for at least some of your health care expenses if you are sick. Fewer trips to the doctor and fewer procedures and pills equal more time and money you can spend in other areas of your life.
.................................
Of course this involves the point that consumers can't be expected to make changes for the better with information being given for that.
There are of course unhealthy diets among vegans.
You don't have to consider and choose this healthy way. But it is there, the information about it is there showing it.
There is much more of evidence from sources than what is found from Loma Linda, a blue zone, showing it. There are studies. The China Study is a really big one, showing this, but there are plenty of others. The doctors who authored the book The Forks Over Knives Plan, which I found first, and others too, have saved lives of their patients with this way. That book shows more of the evidences, there is certainly also the site for it.
Here is relevant text from the book:
The Forks Over Knives Plan
Alona Pulde, MD, and Matthew Lederman, MD
Americans are sick, tired, and overmedicated. Every fifty-three seconds someone in the United States dies of heart disease, which, as the nation's number one killer, claims about 600,000 lives per year. Cancer, now the second leading cause of death, takes the lives of more than 1500 people per day. Meanwhile, nearly 10 percent of the population has diabetes; and our children are getting sicker, as indicated by the startling fact that obesity has more than doubled in children and tripled in adolescents in the past thirty years. We have turned to the medical system for help, and it has delivered medication in a big way: Nearly 70 percent of Americans are on at least one prescription drug, more than 50 percent take two, and 20 percent are on five or more prescription drugs. Despite the billions of dollars being spent on pharmaceuticals, the needle almost never moves downward on the rates of chronic disease, and the people still feel lousy and sick.
Health statistics aren't just about numbers on a page or data on a statistician's ledger. These are our mothers, fathers, siblings, and children. These are our friends. The health crisis is taking a real toll on our daily lives, profoundly affecting the personal happiness and productivity of millions of us every single day.
There is good news, though. Research is revealing with greater certainty that we understand the main cause of this epidemic: an American diet that derives more than 90 percent of what we eat from animal-based and processed foods. Understanding the cause means there's hope! The research tells us that if we change to an entirely different way of eating, we can dramatically alter our health destiny.
Modern pioneers like T. Colin Cambell, PhD; Caldwell Esselstyn, MD; Dean Ornish, MD; John McDougall, MD; Neal Barnard, MD; and others are leading the charge. Thanks to these doctors and researchers, along with an emerging body of scientific evidence from all corners, we now know that a whole-food, plant-based diet is more powerful at preventing and treating chronic diseases than any medication or procedure. We are so convinced by the evidence that we believe if this diet came in a pill, it would be heralded on the front pages of newspapers and magazines around the world for its effectiveness.
There is a movement under way as hundreds of thousands of people, if not more, are trying the whole-food, plant-based lifestyle for themselves and finding great success. We have personally seen remarkable results in our own medical practice, not to mention experienced it in our own lives. Here are just a few of the significant life-changing results you may expect:
Prevent and reverse the leading chronic ailments. A whole-food, plant-based diet can prevent, halt, and even reverse heart disease and diabetes. Other diseases that are also positively impacted by this type of diet include: high cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, and overall mortality. Cancer is also significantly affected by this diet. In fact, the foods that make up this diet are the exact same foods that were recommended in the first "surviving cancer" dietary recommendations. There is also evidence that a plant-based diet may reduce the risk of diverticular disease, gallstones, rheumatoid arthritis, gout, and kidney disease. Furthermore, after switching to a plant-based diet, people routinely report experiencing or seeing in others improvements in a range of ailments, including osteoporosis, arthritis, headaches, acne, asthma, sexual dysfunction, reflux, lupus, inflammatory bowel disease, constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, dementia, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, infertility, insomnia, and sleep apnea. They even find themselves experiencing fewer or less intense colds, viruses, and allergies.
Reach your ideal weight. Humans and their domesticated pets are the only earthly creatures that suffer from being overweight and obese ... in spite of the fact that we're also the only creatures who practice portion control! Why is this the case? It's simple. All the other animals on earth are eating foods that are appropriate for their species. If we also eat foods that are appropriate for our species -- whole, plant-based foods -- then we, too, will be able to eat without portion control and will naturally reach a comfortable weight.
Improve mental clarity Eating a whole-food, plant-based diet improves cognitive function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer's disease. Most people experience greater clarity of thought, improved ability to concentrate, and better memory.
Experience only positive effects, not "side effects". Perhaps you would choose to transition to a plant-based diet to reverse heart disease or reduce your diabetes medications, but now you could see that you would welcome into your life an abundance of positive effects. These can include better mood, sounder sleep, improved bowel function, and more vibrant skin. You will have more energy to do the things you love, like playing with your children or grandchildren, biking, gardening, walking, swimming. You may even want to exercise more. By contrast, as we'll discuss more, medical procedures and medications can have all sorts of major unintended negative consequences.
Have a sense of well-being and empowerment. You are in control of your health. You do not have to settle for compromised health or believe that you are destined to succumb to chronic disease. You can live with less fear that a heart attack can happen at any time or that you will be struck by the same chronic ailment from which other members of your family have suffered.
Save time and money. Whether you have health insurance or not, you will likely have to pay out of pocket for at least some of your health care expenses if you are sick. Fewer trips to the doctor and fewer procedures and pills equal more time and money you can spend in other areas of your life.
.................................
Of course this involves the point that consumers can't be expected to make changes for the better with information being given for that.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Wendy's near me charges over 14.00 for a simple combo meal. A Dave's double with fries and a drink with nothing more.
That crap used to be around $5.00.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Just shows how raising wages dosent do much if it just gets eaten away by higher prices.
The focus should be on lowering prices and not increasing wages, but people are far too one tracked minded to ever see that.
Laniakea
Not of this world
I used to love going to McDonalds. A McDouble burger used to cost $1, as did a McChicken. I'd get one of each and a drink, which was also $1. Now, a McDouble is $3.19, and a McChicken is $2.69.
Sad, but McDonalds will be just another one of the major businesses going bye-bye, and it will be because they met the never-ending demands of their own employees, spurred on by the liberal media telling them that they are "oppressed".
Sad, but McDonalds will be just another one of the major businesses going bye-bye, and it will be because they met the never-ending demands of their own employees, spurred on by the liberal media telling them that they are "oppressed".
We Never Know
No Slack
Mcdonald's is rolling out a new $5 meal this summer.
For $5 you can get a McDouble or McChicken, small fries, a drink, and McNuggets.
Says its trying to win back customers turned off by recent price surges.
MSN
www.msn.com
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I remember when the burgers were around 34 cents each.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What makes this laughable is the promotion will only be for a month from what I heard and read.
McDonald's $5 value meal is coming in June — and staying for just a month
The promotion will include four items for $5 — a McChicken or McDouble, four-piece chicken nuggets, fries and a drink.
www.nbcnews.com
Just 4 weeks and the 5 dollar deal will end.
We Never Know
No Slack
What makes this laughable is the promotion will only be for a month from what I heard and read.
McDonald's $5 value meal is coming in June — and staying for just a month
The promotion will include four items for $5 — a McChicken or McDouble, four-piece chicken nuggets, fries and a drink.
Just 4 weeks and the 5 dollar deal will end.
Yes its basically a trial run. Some franchisees are worried whether this low price is actually sustainable.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Then it’s back up to $20? What a jokeWhat makes this laughable is the promotion will only be for a month from what I heard and read.
McDonald's $5 value meal is coming in June — and staying for just a month
The promotion will include four items for $5 — a McChicken or McDouble, four-piece chicken nuggets, fries and a drink.
Just 4 weeks and the 5 dollar deal will end.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It isn't sustainable. Because the actual cost of living is unsustainable.
No one considers that bringing down the cost of living is the key, but instead the answer is the perpetual practice of raising prices permanently.
I can only speculate what these things will cost 20 years from now. 2054.
My prediction will be the basic fast food combo of a drink , burger , and fries will be 30-40 dollars each.
We Never Know
No Slack
Burger King throws their hat into the ring...
How many others will follow suit with meal deals.
"Burger King's $5 meal promotion is offering customers a choice of one of three sandwiches along with chicken nuggets, fries and a drink. The burger chain didn't give an exact time frame for the offer, but said the $5 meal will begin on a trial basis ahead of the McDonald's $5 promo which is slated to launch June 25."
Burger King to launch $5 meal ahead of similar promo from rival McDonald's
For a limited time, Burger King will give customers a choice of one of three sandwiches along with chicken nuggets, fries and a drink for $5.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Of course it's just for a limited time.Burger King throws their hat into the ring...
How many others will follow suit with meal deals.
"Burger King's $5 meal promotion is offering customers a choice of one of three sandwiches along with chicken nuggets, fries and a drink. The burger chain didn't give an exact time frame for the offer, but said the $5 meal will begin on a trial basis ahead of the McDonald's $5 promo which is slated to launch June 25."
Burger King to launch $5 meal ahead of similar promo from rival McDonald's
For a limited time, Burger King will give customers a choice of one of three sandwiches along with chicken nuggets, fries and a drink for $5.www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org
We Never Know
No Slack
The more that throw their hat into the ring, the more competition. And the longer it may last.
However even a limited time is better than not doing it.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm just curious how much people will pay for fast food crap before saying enough us enough. I'm not paying that high a price anymore.
20 bucks for a single combo?
30 bucks for a single combo?
50 bucks for a single combo?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You are making the error of thinking that money is a constant. I can remember a million years ago when I could get a steak sandwich meal for two or three bucks.
Money is a variable. And @We Never Know is right. The more companies that get involved in this sort of special the longer it will last. They can never be forever. Sooner or later the price will go up. And seriously, you never want to see prices go down. That only happens in incredibly bad economies.