Favorite verses from scripture

[Aupmanyav]

No no prabhu j, .. there canot be two 'manys', .. .. many .. and .. not very much, .. prehaps you mean, .. Those who preach to others are many, .. but those who practice what they preach are few .. or something like that, ..

It could be said that way too, but that is how Goswamiji worded it. 'Ghanere' too means 'many'. That is a word with Rajasthani, Gujarati influence (of course, derived from Sanskrit 'Ghana' which means dense and which you also find in Ghanashyam - Very dark).

 

[Aupmanyav]

He is the One who crawls in Guruvayoor,
He is the One who rules Mathura.
He is the One who blesses us in Thiruvengadam.
And the One who takes rest in Sri Rangam.

Very nice.

Guruvayur (2), Koodal Azhagar temple, Madurai (2), more coming.

 

[Stormcry]

Supreme lord Krishna says in Uddhava gita-

"By the force of Maya there is sorrow, enticement, pleasure and pain and the birth of a man in his body. The world is as unreal as our experience in the dream."

I like this verse. Because mayavada is expounded here by Krishna. The world is as UNREAL as our dream is, unlike what Vaishnawas believe.

 

[Jiddanand]

All verses are super. What's the favorite thing about?

 

[Jiddanand]

God is good and good is God.

 

[Jiddanand]

Bad is Satan and Satan is bad.

 

[निताइ dasa]

I like this verse. Because mayavada is expounded here by Krishna. The world is as UNREAL as our dream is, unlike what Vaishnawas believe.

Hari Hari, I am assuming you are referring to SB 11.11.2? I don't mean to start an argument but I mean there are multiple ways to translate that verse. Our (Vaishnav) translation is that the world is not necessarily unreal, but rather it is identification with the body (dehāpattiś) by which the soul is placed in illusion and misery (śoka-mohau sukhaṁ duḥkhaṁ). Just like the experiences in a dream cause an illusion due to misidentification with it, but the dream itself is not false (it is also a reality, just not the highest). (refer to Maha-Bh. -14.35.34, "satyam bhutam ayam jagat"). So according to our respective schools we will give various translations

 

[Stormcry]

dream itself is not false (it is also a reality, just not the highest).

I disagree here. The dream is always false. because it's a conception caused by imaginations. We don't find its locus.

The reality of dream world should be judged from a real world, not from the dream. I might imagine right now that I'm flying. But I'm awake, in a real world. I'm sure of myself that I'm not flying or the second person besides me surely knows that I'm not flying. The reality is that I'm not flying. It's irrespective of what I think, what I imagine and there's no such thing as higher or lower reality. Reality is reality.

 

[निताइ dasa]

I disagree here. The dream is always false. because it's a conception caused by imaginations. We don't find its locus.

The reality of dream world should be judged from a real world, not from the dream. I might imagine right now that I'm flying. But I'm awake, in a real world. I'm sure of myself that I'm not flying or the second person besides me surely knows that I'm not flying. The reality is that I'm not flying. It's irrespective of what I think, what I imagine and there's no such thing as higher or lower reality. Reality is reality.

Hmmm thank you for your view.It is a reasonable view, but I would also humbly disagree (hehehe as one would expect coming from a Vaishnav sorry ). Even in the dream example, the experience of a dream is also a sort of reality (though it is inferior to the reality after waking up from the dream I agree). Again it depends on our definition of "reality" and what it really means to 'exist'. Sri Baladeva Vidyabhusana in his Prameya Ratnavali says that the word asat should be taken to mean "temporary" not "false". Adwaitins like yourself would say only Brahman exists (hence everything else is false) while we Vaishnavs would say Lord Hari exists alongside His eternal energies (which manifest the material world and hence although temporary, is real), and hence why we draw these meanings according to our respective siddhantas. Anyway let us agree to disagree.

Anyway I am really excited to meet a fellow Srimad Bhagavatam lover here . Very nice to see you quoting from it. I remember when I read it, I was amazed at even the first verse.

 

[Shantanu]

Supreme lord Krishna says in Uddhava gita-

"By the force of Maya there is sorrow, enticement, pleasure and pain and the birth of a man in his body. The world is as unreal as our experience in the dream."

I like this verse. Because mayavada is expounded here by Krishna. The world is as UNREAL as our dream is, unlike what Vaishnawas believe.

Have you ever had a message coming into your mind that is asking you to do something in your life that is extraordinary in this world?

 

[Stormcry]

Have you ever had a message coming into your mind that is asking you to do something in your life that is extraordinary in this world?

NO

 

[Aupmanyav]

All thoughts of actions other than the the autonomous or reflex actions first originate in mind.

 

[Shantanu]

NO

Then you are not an avatar because all avatars have a mission and realise their mission with the help of God who would make clear this mission.

 

[JaiMaaDurga]

Namaste,

As a Shakta, the Vak (Devi) Suktam (RV 10.125).

In the Devi Mahatmyam, King Suratha and the merchant Samadhi perform japa of Vak Suktam as part of worshiping Devi and are blessed by Her.