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Fear of Death or...

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Do you see a difference between having a fear of death and dying. And/or just being happy with how and who you currently are? (As those that fear death typically have something they're desiring to be or do).

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?
 
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Secret Chief

Vetted Member
Do you see a difference between having a fear of death and dying. And/or just being happy with how and who you currently are? (As those that fear death typically have something they're desiring to be or do).

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?
Yes. I don't fear my death. I just hope to avoid a long painful death.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?

No. I'm not ready to drop my physical body yet.

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

That which is born wants to keep living - it's part of nature. As the poet Dylan Thomas put it so well: Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Look at the instinct of animals - their every urge is to stay alive. So it's deep deep within us. It's even present in the urge to want to finish a really good book or movie or great song. We want to get to what we feel is the end.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Yes. I don't fear my death. I just hope to avoid a long painful death.

This is pretty much where I'm at, I don't fear my death, but I don't want it to be a long painful process either.

Then of course there is the fact that my family would miss me, and there are things I like and enjoy doing.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
This is pretty much where I'm at, I don't fear my death, but I don't want it to be a long painful process either.

Then of course there is the fact that my family would miss me, and there are things I like and enjoy doing.
If Liz Truss becomes the next prime minister, death would be a blessed release. :rolleyes:
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Once I leave a legacy and do good for the world, and offer something to God and his chosen, I don't mind dying. But not now.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?
According to Heidegger it is the realization that we will die that drives us to seek fulfillment in life, and I don't think there is any inherent reason why we must loosen the hold of the Self to overcome a fear of death.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Do you see a difference between having a fear of death and dying. And/or just being happy with how and who you currently are? (As those that fear death typically have something they're desiring to be or do).

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?
Oh, absolutely! I have no fear of death whatever -- as Sam Clemens said, "I was dead for millions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience."

Dying, on the other hand, must include at least the possibility of pain or suffering, inability to breath, fear. As a mere human, these things do frighten me, I don't hesitate to admit it. So of course one hopes for that "quietly in his sleep" mention in the obituary. But once the dying's over with, the death is nothing to fear at all.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Do you see a difference between having a fear of death and dying. And/or just being happy with how and who you currently are? (As those that fear death typically have something they're desiring to be or do).

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?

Since I've already provided something for my kids and grandkids, I'm fine with whatever comes next.
Maybe if I had not been able to do that it'd be different.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Do you see a difference between having a fear of death and dying. And/or just being happy with how and who you currently are? (As those that fear death typically have something they're desiring to be or do).

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?
I wouldn't be okay with dying as I am right now.

It's also good to be careful to not let the fear of death make you feel like you're on a timer, patience is an important key in accomplishing your goals if you ask me.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Do you see a difference between having a fear of death and dying. And/or just being happy with how and who you currently are? (As those that fear death typically have something they're desiring to be or do).

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?

I think fear of death comes from fearing the end of the person. The ego really hates that. Lose the ego/self and it lessens the fear. Fear of dying, to me, is fear of something scary or painful that leads to death.
 

paradox

(㇏(•̀ᵥᵥ•́)ノ)
Do you see a difference between having a fear of death and dying. And/or just being happy with how and who you currently are? (As those that fear death typically have something they're desiring to be or do).

Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?

Would you be ok with dying as you are right now?
Fear of death is probably the best argument for existence of religions, everybody want to live forever.
 

JDMS

Academic Workhorse
Yes, I fear death.

I didn't know I feared death until I almost died when my kidneys failed because of an infection. I was in the hospital for a long time because of that, and the idea of dying made me sick. I was so panicked and fearful at the idea of dying that I could barely even talk to anyone. I then almost died again when I had a heatstroke.

I also found myself unable to stomach visiting my sick relatives after that. Seeing them at death's door reminded me of my own experience.

I couldn't tell you what about death is frightening to me. I guess I hate imagining myself or others in such a state of decay and the pain involved.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Does losing ones fear of death mean loosening the hold on the Self? If so, what is the self hanging on too, desiring?

Is it a conscious desire or something deeper and unconscious?
I have been pondering lately if those such as Spartans and Vikings accepted death on their terms but where afraid of death in other ways, such as disease or accident. Hunt down death on the battle field where they are likely to find him, because otherwise the concept of growing old, frail and a possibly slow and painful death when it's least expected is the alternative.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes, I fear death.

I didn't know I feared death until I almost died when my kidneys failed because of an infection. I was in the hospital for a long time because of that, and the idea of dying made me sick. I was so panicked and fearful at the idea of dying that I could barely even talk to anyone. I then almost died again when I had a heatstroke.

I also found myself unable to stomach visiting my sick relatives after that. Seeing them at death's door reminded me of my own experience.

I couldn't tell you what about death is frightening to me. I guess I hate imagining myself or others in such a state of decay and the pain involved.
I found death far less daunting when I was suicidal, lmao.
 
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