FETI: Found Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.

[John D. Brey]

Do not FOUND then

If extraterrestrial aliens were found it would make serious big news

The crucifixion didn't initially make serious big news. This is that. We could think of it almost like a memetic Stockholm-syndrome whereby even those who suspect their brain is being parasited resist anyone who tries to free them: they've developed an unholy alliance with their captors and masters; they prostitute their mind that it might be impregnated by the lords of the air.



John

 

[ChristineM]

The crucifixion didn't initially make serious big news. This is that. We could think of it almost like a memetic Stockholm-syndrome whereby even those who suspect their brain is being parasited resist anyone who tries to free them: they've developed an unholy alliance with their captors and masters.



John

Technology has moved on a bit in 2000 years.

Foe example, you used the internet and quantum mechanics to make that post so everyone in the world with access to RF can read it

 

[John D. Brey]

Technology has moved on a bit in 2000 years. . . Foe example, you used the internet and quantum mechanics to make that post so everyone in the world with access to RF can read it

Very true. Unfortunately the Internet is something like a collective brain. If malfeasant memes contaminate the brain, then they get passed on even faster in the Internet. The oracle, John the Revelator, said these demonic trans-biological lords would eventually manufacture a machine (have us make if for them) that would spit them out so fast that even the Elect would get contaminated beyond hope.

So my hope is merely to regurgitate The End is Near one last time before even I begin to forget why I'm here and start watching reruns of Seinfeld from sunup to sundown.




John

 

[ChristineM]

Very true. Unfortunately the Internet is something like a collective brain. If malfeasant memes contaminate the brain, then they get passes on even faster in the Internet. The oracle, John the Revelator, said these demonic trans-biological lords would eventually manufacture a machine (have us make if for them) that would spit them out so fast that even the Elect would get contaminated beyond hope.

So my hope is merely to regurgitate The End is Near one last time before even I begin to forget why I'm here and start watching reruns of Seinfeld from sunup to sundown.




John

Personally I would love to see alien life discovered, although indicators of life on some exo planets have been detected on K2-18b the technology is not quite there for discovery.

Oh and a note about your signature

The acceptance of the Phallus is immoral. It has always been thought of as hateful​

Is not so, in ancient Rome the phallus was considered a symbol of luck

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Personally I would love to see alien life discovered, although indicators of life on some exo planets have been detected on K2-18b the technology is not quite there for discovery.

Oh and a note about your signature

The acceptance of the Phallus is immoral. It has always been thought of as hateful​

Is not so, in ancient Rome the phallus was considered a symbol of luck

Also by the Norse

And in India...

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It's one of my favorite albums:

But it's more in the realm of "sci fi." To date, there has not been any extraterrestrial intelligence found, and some people may wonder how much terrestrial intelligence has been found.

I agree with the former and constantly wonder about the latter.

 

[viole]

Found. Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.




John

In the same way we found extra terrestrial stupidity.


Ciao

- viole

 

[John D. Brey]

. . . in ancient Rome the phallus was considered a symbol of luck

. . . Then if any of the ladies are roamin and looking to get lucky look no further.

Btw, Roy Orbison (or some such famous person) once said the thing about luck is it's always wearing dirty work cloths. But he never said the hard worker had to be moral to get lucky. As noted above, most of those who get lucky, like maybe Pharrell, are dirty-minded and immoral to the extreme. So Otto Weininger's comment seems intact to me.

The acceptance of the phallus is immoral. But if you wanna get lucky it's indispensable.

John

 

[John D. Brey]

In the same way we found extra terrestrial stupidity.

. . . I would have said terrestrial extra stupidity.



John

 

[soulsurvivor]

Found. Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.

You are late. The US government found it more than 75 years ago.

 

[John D. Brey]

You are late. The US government found it more than 75 years ago.

The serious argument in this thread is found in message #19. For instance, say that the aliens found at Roswell looked like this:

. . . And say they were circumcised (had a circular scar where the foreskin was removed). Since they're not from our planet, if they're circumcised, and have bloody crosses on their forehead, we can assume that some form of memetic, or symbolic (cross, circumcision) life-form (a trans-biological life-form) exists in the universe and has parasited the brain tissue of living organisms on more than one planet.

Well . . . as stated in message #19, we already know this to be true since aboriginal peoples who've never had contact with anyone outside their tribe, exhibit the same symbolism as found in Jewish and Christian ritual and symbolism. This suggests strongly that there's some kind of trans-biological life-form (a disembodied life-form of some kind) that's parasited brains thousands of miles apart and which have had zero contact whereby the memes or symbols could have reached them. It's as though they're floating in the air waiting to parasite brain tissue.

This being the case, I can venture a serious scientific theory that if and when we find intelligent biological life on another planet, some of them will be circumcised (or something equivalent) and some of them will sacrifice other living creatures in religious rituals. They will have temples where the blood of the sacrifice is taken and offered to the gods or God.




John

 

[soulsurvivor]

This suggests strongly that there's some kind of trans-biological life-form (a disembodied life-form of some kind) that's parasited brains thousands of miles apart and which have had zero contact whereby the memes or symbols could have reached them

Instead of some trans-biological parasitic life-form, I prefer to think of it in terms of Jung's collective unconscious. (If you really want go 'New-Age', I would think of it as a case of Sheldrake's morphic resonance)

I certainly hope that the aliens who will visit us from far off galaxies (or have already visited us in Roswell), are not performing primitive rituals like circumcision and are far more advanced than us and don't believe in some kind of blood sacrifice.

However, I was being serious when I said the aliens have already found us and the US government has found them.

 

[John D. Brey]

Instead of some trans-biological parasitic life-form, I prefer to think of it in terms of Jung's collective unconscious. (If you really want go 'New-Age', I would think of it as a case of Sheldrake's morphic resonance)

I certainly hope that the aliens who will visit us from far off galaxies (or have already visited us in Roswell), are not performing primitive rituals like circumcision and are far more advanced than us and don't believe in some kind of blood sacrifice.

However, I was being serious when I said the aliens have already found us and the US government has found them.

Addressing your last statement first, the Bible assumes alien life-forms from the get-go. Genesis chapter six speaks of an actual infiltration where they interbred with humans resulting in the universal flood to attempt to annihilate the hybrids (though some survived the flood).

There's even an argument to be made that every one of us possesses chromosomes (y) come, so to say, from the interbreeding. We may all be hybrids ---exempting Jesus of Nazareth, who was born the old-fashioned way (parthenogenesis). It's strange then that Jesus claimed he could cleanse us of our alien nature and share his nature with us through a unique parthenogenetic rebirth resulting in us being born-again without entering a second time into our mother's womb (with apologies to Nicodemus).

Since all persons on the planet come from the earliest human beings, we could say that these ancient rituals, signs, and symbols, have been floating around in the collective-unconscious from the earliest days of human existence. Possible longer than that. Jung's collective-unconscious would be the place these ancient ideas are immortal like we will be once we bring the most seminal concepts found there back to life.



John

 

[Alien826]

Well, if we're being infiltrated by extra-terrestrials, then they're doing a heck of a good job impersonating humans. I mean that as a sincere compliment, to any extra-terrestrials who may be reading this.

Thank you.

 

[Alien826]

The serious argument in this thread is found in message #19. For instance, say that the aliens found at Roswell looked like this:

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. . . And say they were circumcised (had a circular scar where the foreskin was removed). Since they're not from our planet, if they're circumcised, and have bloody crosses on their forehead, we can assume that some form of memetic, or symbolic (cross, circumcision) life-form (a trans-biological life-form) exists in the universe and has parasited the brain tissue of living organisms on more than one planet.

Well . . . as stated in message #19, we already know this to be true since aboriginal peoples who've never had contact with anyone outside their tribe, exhibit the same symbolism as found in Jewish and Christian ritual and symbolism. This suggests strongly that there's some kind of trans-biological life-form (a disembodied life-form of some kind) that's parasited brains thousands of miles apart and which have had zero contact whereby the memes or symbols could have reached them. It's as though they're floating in the air waiting to parasite brain tissue.

This being the case, I can venture a serious scientific theory that if and when we find intelligent biological life on another planet, some of them will be circumcised (or something equivalent) and some of them will sacrifice other living creatures in religious rituals. They will have temples where the blood of the sacrifice is taken and offered to the gods or God.




John

I've often wondered why these aliens that people claim to have seen all have generally human like bodies. The answer is easy, because they're made up by humans. But, why should a life form that has evolved on a different planet follow the pattern of Earthly mammals? Maybe they evolved under water and have fishy means of reproduction. Or like birds who have a cloaca. Or be totally different from any Earthly life forms.

In short there's no guarantee that they would even have a penis to circumcise.

 

[John D. Brey]

I've often wondered why these aliens that people claim to have seen all have generally human like bodies. The answer is easy, because they're made up by humans. But, why should a life form that has evolved on a different planet follow the pattern of Earthly mammals? Maybe they evolved under water and have fishy means of reproduction. Or like birds who have a cloaca. Or be totally different from any Earthly life forms.

In short there's no guarantee that they would even have a penis to circumcise.

There are no square, or rectilinear planets. The law of gravity guarantees that. Likewise, the laws of nature guarantee that most mammals will have some sort of phallic-mechanism to allow them to reproduce. Sexual mixing, and the death that comes along with sexual mixing, allow enough biological modification to occur in a reasonable time-frame to allow larger species to evolve within the window of time a planet and its sun are viable environs for biological evolution to occur (that window is much smaller than most people suppose). Without evolutionary modification taking place through sexual selection coupled with the giant reduction in life-span that comes with meiotic-sexuality, no organism would evolve fast enough to gain a size capable of producing the kind of brain the alien life-form requires in order to parasite the brain and use it to spread its viral ideas throughout the cosmos.



John

 

[John D. Brey]

Well, if we're being infiltrated by extra-terrestrials, then they're doing a heck of a good job impersonating humans. I mean that as a sincere compliment, to any extra-terrestrials who may be reading this.

I've read reams and reams of commentary implying that MAGA people are not even good impersonations of a human being. Which would imply that we have at least one exhibit of alien humanoids peopling the planet.

If there's some alien empire who wants to take over the Earth, my first reaction would be: Why would they want Earth?

How many other planets has the Webb telescope found better than earth? Has Webb spied naked Pamela Sue Andersons in their milky white birthday suit on pristine beaches somewhere else in the Milky Way galaxy? . . . None of the images I might spy in Playboy say they were taken on some other planet. So why wouldn't horny aliens find earth attractive? Whatda you wanna bet some scientist snuck a Penthouse on one of the rovers sent out roving space for aliens? His momma didn't raise no fool. He knows how to get alien life-forms lining up for an interstellar trip to our big blue bordello.

And it came to pass when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the aliens saw the daughters of men and they were hot [טבת]; so they took them wives of all which they chose.​

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Genesis 6:1-2.​

But in the final analysis, at this point, I find that there's much more to fear from humans than from extra-terrestrials. At least at present. That may change if circumstances change.

The idea proffered in this thread is that the alien species found on earth is non-biological. It parasites human brain tissue without killing the human it's parasiting. The idea in this thread is that opening the Bible and looking at the written text is a means of becoming infiltrated with this alien life-form. No less a scientist than Richard Dawkins has implied such a thing, i.e., that religion is a virus or parasite that spreads from human to human, from text to human, from meme to human.




John

 

[Alien826]

There are no square, or rectilinear planets. The law of gravity guarantees that. Likewise, the laws of nature guarantee that most mammals will have some sort of phallic-mechanism to allow them to reproduce. Sexual mixing, and the death that comes along with sexual mixing, allow enough biological modification to occur in a reasonable time-frame to allow larger species to evolve within the window of time a planet and its sun are viable environs for biological evolution to occur (that window is much smaller than most people suppose). Without evolutionary modification taking place through sexual selection coupled with the giant reduction in life-span that comes with meiotic-sexuality, no organism would evolve fast enough to gain a size capable of producing the kind of brain the alien life-form requires in order to parasite the brain and use it to spread its viral ideas throughout the cosmos.



John

Hmmm. So, are you expanding the definition of "phallus" to include the male part of all sexual mechanisms? What would that be for birds that simply have holes that they press together? How about (some) fish that squirt semen over already laid eggs? Not only is there no identifiable equivalent of the mammalian penis, but it's difficult to imagine what would be the equivalent of circumcision.

I also think you are making a huge assumption when to say that the way nature does things here must be the only way to reproduce and introduce the necessary variation to enable evolution (actually it's not true here). I have no idea what that might be, but it's a vast universe, in which life has most likely emerged many many times.

What's this about death being caused by sexual mixing? Bacteria die, don't they?

 

[soulsurvivor]

Genesis chapter six speaks of an actual infiltration where they interbred with humans resulting in the universal flood to attempt to annihilate the hybrids (though some survived the flood).

There may have been inbreeding between humans and aliens as Genesis claims. However, I would not want to accuse some alien race of planting parasites in our brain based on evidence in Genesis.

Maybe the aliens actually made us more intelligent and the evil that needed to be destroyed by the flood was our own creation. Maybe the similarities found between different peoples on Earth are purely a matter of the collective unconscious and nothing to do with aliens.

BTW Sheldrake has done reproducible experiments where he plants memories in laboratory mice in London and can observe statistically significant results in mice in another location like New Zealand.

How many other planets has the Webb telescope found better than earth?

The reason we don't see aliens on other planets is because they are invisible to us since the aliens are made of dark matter. So, getting bigger, better telescopes will not help.

It is a rather long read but if you have the patience you may want to read thru this website The Great UFO Coverup Conspiracy

 

[John D. Brey]

Hmmm. So, are you expanding the definition of "phallus" to include the male part of all sexual mechanisms? What would that be for birds that simply have holes that they press together? How about (some) fish that squirt semen over already laid eggs? Not only is there no identifiable equivalent of the mammalian penis, but it's difficult to imagine what would be the equivalent of circumcision.

For the sake of brain tissue being parasited by alien thought, only higher, penis-producing mammals need apply. No birds, or fish, have a human-like grammar that makes them attractive to the aliens.

I also think you are making a huge assumption when to say that the way nature does things here must be the only way to reproduce and introduce the necessary variation to enable evolution (actually it's not true here). I have no idea what that might be, but it's a vast universe, in which life has most likely emerged many many times.

That's actually not true. The evolution of intelligent life like ours not only requires about the amount of time that we know know is the age of the universe, but it requires a finely tuned planet, orbiting a star/sun in the middle of its lifespan (when it's stable enough not to destroy life while it's in the evolutionary stages required to get to something like us). Stars like our sun are only stable for a short time (in a cosmic sense). Most of the time they send out solar flares and sudden bursts of radiation that will destroy any fledgling life-forms. The stable period of a star like ours is only long enough for life like us to evolve. Then things get ugly as the star leaves its stable phase (2 Peter 3:7).

The odds are very good that we are the only planet in the universe with intelligent life. Most astrophysicists know this, but aren't forthcoming with it, since it rains on their ideological parade.

What's this about death being caused by sexual mixing? Bacteria die, don't they?

Not if they don't have sex.

With only a handful of exceptions, single-celled organisms reproducing exclusively by simple fission lack one feature that ultimately brings death to all single-cells that have sex, and all multicellular organisms, including human beings: senescence, the gradual, programmed aging of cells and organisms they make up, independently of events in the environment. Accidental cell death was around from the very first appearance of anything we would call life. Death of the organism through senescence ---programmed death----- makes its appearance in evolution at about the same time that sexual reproduction appears.​

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Phd. Biologist William R. Clark, Sex and the Origins of Death, p. 62-63.​

John