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Fidel Castro Dies at age 90

Kirran

Premium Member
Most of those "collectible" Chevy's had their engines replaced with 1970s era Datsun (now called Nissan) engines - sort of an amazing feat of it's own right to rig it to get the transmission to work - so other than the body of the car (which have had a lot of "homemade" bondo work) as some spares these would never pass as very "collectible" in Los Angeles.

But what I find more interesting is the Catholic Church issue. I am not a Catholic but in general I am starting to have real questions about that church in retrospect of the current alt-left pope. This guy seems more about his politics than his religion, and now Catholicism seems to me to have a "dilemma" since really, from a non-Catholic view, the church WAS (or am I wrong?) distinct from other Christian denominations BECAUSE of the "pope is (almost) God or God's direct representative (or something like that) and Pope's word is FINAL (supreme and official - may as well have been directly from Jesus), or ..."

... see, even though I didn't read it, the news is saying to us (well, the MSM is saying to Americans) how The Pope (with a capital T in the) is saying Castro is the greatest figure to have walked the earth, so great that maybe he is greater than Jesus, and how the Pope is so sad Fidel is dead, what a loss to the world per the Pope who is "infallible" so it must mean that Castro is good, JFK is bad, and stuff like that...

... but if the Pope is infallible in the Castro is the greatest figure to walk the earth thingy, then how come on 01/03/1962 did Pope John XXIII excommunicated Fidel Castro?

... I mean this other Pope who I am told is infallible said Castro is in hell right now, but the current Pope who I am told is also infallible is saying exactly the opposite that Castro is a Catholic Saint.

WT... ???

Hmmm... is the infallible thing only applicable if a Pope is alive and no longer infallible when dead? Or can infallible become inflate-able? And the alive Pope is infallible except if he dies? And the dead Pope is always a "he", not a she, but Trump is a misogynist per the Pope but the Pope is not a misogynist but Pope-ism is only for guys... ?

I think maybe Pope-ism is going to end up being more controversial in the end than even Castro's beard. I mean, this is bizarre. What is the point of Catholicism in terms of Pope-ism when one infallible completely contradicts another infallible? It all looks like spagbetti to me. Did Fidel also walk on water? Or have the divine power to rig a Datsun engine to a Chevy transmission?

Divine transmission.

When did the Pope say that about Castro?

Also, given his statements on homosexuality, transgenderism, contraception, ordination of women etc he's hardly an "alt-left" Pope. Although the alt-left isn't a thing anyway.

He may well support a number of leftist economic policies, which is what one should expect from a morality based in Christian charity.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Recently, Fidel Castro came out to say he feels especially bad for all the abuse of homosexuals during his time in power, and that he wished he'd been able to do more for them but had to deal with other issues. He hoped Cuba would get its act together on LGBT rights.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Most of those "collectible" Chevy's had their engines replaced with 1970s era Datsun (now called Nissan) engines - sort of an amazing feat of it's own right to rig it to get the transmission to work - so other than the body of the car (which have had a lot of "homemade" bondo work) as some spares these would never pass as very "collectible" in Los Angeles.

But what I find more interesting is the Catholic Church issue. I am not a Catholic but in general I am starting to have real questions about that church in retrospect of the current alt-left pope. This guy seems more about his politics than his religion, and now Catholicism seems to me to have a "dilemma" since really, from a non-Catholic view, the church WAS (or am I wrong?) distinct from other Christian denominations BECAUSE of the "pope is (almost) God or God's direct representative (or something like that) and Pope's word is FINAL (supreme and official - may as well have been directly from Jesus), or ..."

... see, even though I didn't read it, the news is saying to us (well, the MSM is saying to Americans) how The Pope (with a capital T in the) is saying Castro is the greatest figure to have walked the earth, so great that maybe he is greater than Jesus, and how the Pope is so sad Fidel is dead, what a loss to the world per the Pope who is "infallible" so it must mean that Castro is good, JFK is bad, and stuff like that...

... but if the Pope is infallible in the Castro is the greatest figure to walk the earth thingy, then how come on 01/03/1962 did Pope John XXIII excommunicated Fidel Castro?

... I mean this other Pope who I am told is infallible said Castro is in hell right now, but the current Pope who I am told is also infallible is saying exactly the opposite that Castro is a Catholic Saint.

WT... ???

Hmmm... is the infallible thing only applicable if a Pope is alive and no longer infallible when dead? Or can infallible become inflate-able? And the alive Pope is infallible except if he dies? And the dead Pope is always a "he", not a she, but Trump is a misogynist per the Pope but the Pope is not a misogynist but Pope-ism is only for guys... ?

I think maybe Pope-ism is going to end up being more controversial in the end than even Castro's beard. I mean, this is bizarre. What is the point of Catholicism in terms of Pope-ism when one infallible completely contradicts another infallible? It all looks like spagbetti to me. Did Fidel also walk on water? Or have the divine power to rig a Datsun engine to a Chevy transmission?

Divine transmission.

You make some good points regarding the actual power of a pope. No disrespect intended toward the Catholic faith, but the pope is just a man and has no power to either forgive or to condemn to hell.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Most of those "collectible" Chevy's had their engines replaced with 1970s era Datsun (now called Nissan) engines - sort of an amazing feat of it's own right to rig it to get the transmission to work - so other than the body of the car (which have had a lot of "homemade" bondo work) as some spares these would never pass as very "collectible" in Los Angeles.

But what I find more interesting is the Catholic Church issue. I am not a Catholic but in general I am starting to have real questions about that church in retrospect of the current alt-left pope. This guy seems more about his politics than his religion, and now Catholicism seems to me to have a "dilemma" since really, from a non-Catholic view, the church WAS (or am I wrong?) distinct from other Christian denominations BECAUSE of the "pope is (almost) God or God's direct representative (or something like that) and Pope's word is FINAL (supreme and official - may as well have been directly from Jesus), or ..."

... see, even though I didn't read it, the news is saying to us (well, the MSM is saying to Americans) how The Pope (with a capital T in the) is saying Castro is the greatest figure to have walked the earth, so great that maybe he is greater than Jesus, and how the Pope is so sad Fidel is dead, what a loss to the world per the Pope who is "infallible" so it must mean that Castro is good, JFK is bad, and stuff like that...

... but if the Pope is infallible in the Castro is the greatest figure to walk the earth thingy, then how come on 01/03/1962 did Pope John XXIII excommunicated Fidel Castro?

... I mean this other Pope who I am told is infallible said Castro is in hell right now, but the current Pope who I am told is also infallible is saying exactly the opposite that Castro is a Catholic Saint.

WT... ???

Hmmm... is the infallible thing only applicable if a Pope is alive and no longer infallible when dead? Or can infallible become inflate-able? And the alive Pope is infallible except if he dies? And the dead Pope is always a "he", not a she, but Trump is a misogynist per the Pope but the Pope is not a misogynist but Pope-ism is only for guys... ?

I think maybe Pope-ism is going to end up being more controversial in the end than even Castro's beard. I mean, this is bizarre. What is the point of Catholicism in terms of Pope-ism when one infallible completely contradicts another infallible? It all looks like spagbetti to me. Did Fidel also walk on water? Or have the divine power to rig a Datsun engine to a Chevy transmission?

Divine transmission.
You should google "papal infallibility" because you're misportraying what it actually is v isn't.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No disrespect intended toward the Catholic faith, but the pope is just a man and has no power to either forgive or to condemn to hell.
Nor does the RCC teach that the Pope is anything more than a man, nor that he can forgive sins for God, nor that he can condemn anyone.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
The military "Jeep" pulling Castro's ashes broke down during the funeral procession, and the soldiers had to push the vehicle.

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It is believed the military "Jeep" that broke down was retrofitted with a Lada 4 cyilnder engine.

This is almost as funny as in 1989 funeral process in Iran when the half naked dead carcass of the Ayyatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran came falling out from the coffin and tumbled to the ground as frenzied mourners lost control.

Here is one of the pictures after the "Jeep" broke down, they then had the soldiers pull it and push it as best they could and still try and look "dignified".

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Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
What did he die of? Actually, it is not known nor has the totalitarian regime made any official cause of death.

News here in Miami suggest he died from Emphysema due to smoking.

Those who left Cuba are amazingly united in their hatred of Castro. Those who live in Cuba are amazingly united in their love of Castro. It's almost mindless in many regards and reminds me of those who love Trump on so many levels.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
News here in Miami suggest he died from Emphysema due to smoking.

Those who left Cuba are amazingly united in their hatred of Castro. Those who live in Cuba are amazingly united in their love of Castro. It's almost mindless in many regards and reminds me of those who love Trump on so many levels.

Laugh. You mean all those Cubans sneaking out the photos of Castro's funedal Jeep breaking down love him?

They are not only sick of the Castros and are laughing at the funeral while avoiding being arrested, they are now plotting another attempted overthrow of this dinosaur totalitarian regime and want their 36 billion dollars back that Castro stole.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
You mean all those Cubans sneaking out the photos of Castro's funedal Jeep breaking down love him?
You don't think an entire country can be duped? Look at Trump!

There are a few who despise him, but most of the true haters have left Cuba already. Inadvertently, Castro made Miami the uber success it is today because of it.
 
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