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First Computer To Pass Turing Test. Doooommmmm!
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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If you've been spending too much time on RF, you might be more inclined to the latter.
AI will really be mature when a computer program wins the Meijin Tournament.
So... a new question.
When can we be sure that a computer is actually sentient? After all, psychopaths can mimic normal human behavior perfectly without actually feeling any emotion or social connection. (Of course psychopaths are sentient; it's a statement about mimicry).
George Lucas has gone on record saying that C-3P0 has no soul despite portraying a small emotional range; he's a programmed machine. Data from Star Trek, however, is frequently argued to have a soul despite not feeling any emotions (except, well, a desire to feel emotions, for what it's worth), despite also being a programmed machine.
I would say that the answer would lie within two things: the computer's code, and neuroscience. Compare the computer's code to a standard set of neuron-processes required for an accepted definition of sentience.
When can we be sure that a computer is actually sentient? After all, psychopaths can mimic normal human behavior perfectly without actually feeling any emotion or social connection. (Of course psychopaths are sentient; it's a statement about mimicry).
George Lucas has gone on record saying that C-3P0 has no soul despite portraying a small emotional range; he's a programmed machine. Data from Star Trek, however, is frequently argued to have a soul despite not feeling any emotions (except, well, a desire to feel emotions, for what it's worth), despite also being a programmed machine.
I would say that the answer would lie within two things: the computer's code, and neuroscience. Compare the computer's code to a standard set of neuron-processes required for an accepted definition of sentience.
I expect that we'll never define criteria for sentience. There will be continual advances
until one day, Model XB-V4.1 says, "Get yer paws off'm me, you damn dirty human!".
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Just goes to show the human bias in attributing sentience to a thing. If it looks human, it's more likely to have a "soul" than something that looks like an Astromech or a Tin Man.
Getting into the P-zombie dilemma is always a good way to waste time.
DreadFish
Cosmic Vagabond
There are a couple of problems with this.
First, it's just a chatbot with a script that fooled one group of people; that's not AI, and it's not even scientific. Second, it's not even the first chatbot to pass a Turing test and it didn't even do as well as some of the other chatbots that passed. There is nothing special about this story.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-first-time-everyone-should-know-better.shtml
First, it's just a chatbot with a script that fooled one group of people; that's not AI, and it's not even scientific. Second, it's not even the first chatbot to pass a Turing test and it didn't even do as well as some of the other chatbots that passed. There is nothing special about this story.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-first-time-everyone-should-know-better.shtml
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
kashmir
Well-Known Member
I didn't read the article, so no clue what is going on, but I can say this.
Back in my Mirc chat relay days, there is a very simple line of code that is referred to as talkbot, which is so simple to create, the hard part is all the communication you wish the bot to have at its disposal.
In short, it picks up on lines of text or even one word, and reply back from what ever notepad you design it to, and picks a random reply.
People used to actually make chat rooms, with a "female" talkbot to lure guys to eventually click through to their pornsite.
Used to crack me up,
"dude, thats a talk bot, its not a real person"
"Nahh man she is real, you're stupid"
Usually the person who wrote the code, would obvious have the bot pick up on the word "real" or even, "are you real?" and the bot would reply with various yes answers.
Which would happen, they would say.. see, she is real.
So, I can only assume, this is how today's artificial intelligence works.
I also exploited that code from over 20 years ago, in the creation of a bot I used on twitter.
Here is a sample of it...
To add more, all you do is add a new word for it to pick up on
Here is a few from the notepad
(BTW, doing this got me a ton of RT's and woman followers
)
I can only assume, this is exactly how artificial intelligence is being created today, but on a whole new level.
Reversing and edited the code, gives it the abiltiy to write new text into the notepads, but it becomes complicated.
That is the learning part of artificial intelligence, so not only will it reply, it will also learn and add to its own "brain"
Basically, this whole bot I use on twitter is nothing more than one notepad with what I call the remotes, which is all the "reading of text part" and various notepads for it to reply with.
I have no idea how to get the learning part to work right, but with a few weeks of creation, one can go on twitter and pretty much let it run on auto, and you will trick a lot of people into thinking you are replying to them.
It would take years and years of writing codes in for this to be deemed artificial intelligence, but I am sure this is all it is, in a nut shell.
I am sure this is how that android app Siri works too, with added features to search and do commands and instead of it reading lines of text, its hearing words and replying from reading from lines of text
Back in my Mirc chat relay days, there is a very simple line of code that is referred to as talkbot, which is so simple to create, the hard part is all the communication you wish the bot to have at its disposal.
In short, it picks up on lines of text or even one word, and reply back from what ever notepad you design it to, and picks a random reply.
People used to actually make chat rooms, with a "female" talkbot to lure guys to eventually click through to their pornsite.
Used to crack me up,
"dude, thats a talk bot, its not a real person"
"Nahh man she is real, you're stupid"
Usually the person who wrote the code, would obvious have the bot pick up on the word "real" or even, "are you real?" and the bot would reply with various yes answers.
Which would happen, they would say.. see, she is real.
So, I can only assume, this is how today's artificial intelligence works.
I also exploited that code from over 20 years ago, in the creation of a bot I used on twitter.
Here is a sample of it...
So what it would do, is pick up on the word "woman" and reply to twitter with... "why we love woman" along with a random quote line from the women.txt notepad I created.
To add more, all you do is add a new word for it to pick up on
Here is a few from the notepad
(BTW, doing this got me a ton of RT's and woman followers
)I can only assume, this is exactly how artificial intelligence is being created today, but on a whole new level.
Reversing and edited the code, gives it the abiltiy to write new text into the notepads, but it becomes complicated.
That is the learning part of artificial intelligence, so not only will it reply, it will also learn and add to its own "brain"
Basically, this whole bot I use on twitter is nothing more than one notepad with what I call the remotes, which is all the "reading of text part" and various notepads for it to reply with.
I have no idea how to get the learning part to work right, but with a few weeks of creation, one can go on twitter and pretty much let it run on auto, and you will trick a lot of people into thinking you are replying to them.
It would take years and years of writing codes in for this to be deemed artificial intelligence, but I am sure this is all it is, in a nut shell.
I am sure this is how that android app Siri works too, with added features to search and do commands and instead of it reading lines of text, its hearing words and replying from reading from lines of text
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DreadFish
Cosmic Vagabond
I didn't read the article, so no clue what is going on, but I can say this.
Back in my Mirc chat relay days, there is a very simple line of code that is referred to as talkbot, which is so simple to create, the hard part is all the communication you wish the bot to have at its disposal.
In short, it picks up on lines of text or even one word, and reply back from what ever notepad you design it to, and picks a random reply.
People used to actually make chat rooms, with a "female" talkbot to lure guys to eventually click through to their pornsite.
Used to crack me up,
"dude, thats a talk bot, its not a real person"
"Nahh man she is real, you're stupid"
Usually the person who wrote the code, would obvious have the bot pick up on the word "real" or even, "are you real?" and the bot would reply with various yes answers.
Which would happen, they would say.. see, she is real.
So, I can only assume, this is how today's artificial intelligence works.
I also exploited that code from over 20 years ago, in the creation of a bot I used on twitter.
Here is a sample of it...
So what it would do, is pick up on the word "woman" and reply to twitter with... "why we love woman" along with a random quote line from the women.txt notepad I created.
To add more, all you do is add a new word for it to pick up on
Here is a few from the notepad
(BTW, doing this got me a ton of RT's and woman followers
I can only assume, this is exactly how artificial intelligence is being created today, but on a whole new level.
Reversing and edited the code, gives it the abiltiy to write new text into the notepads, but it becomes complicated.
That is the learning part of artificial intelligence, so not only will it reply, it will also learn and add to its own "brain"
Basically, this whole bot I use on twitter is nothing more than one notepad with what I call the remotes, which is all the "reading of text part" and various notepads for it to reply with.
I have no idea how to get the learning part to work right, but with a few weeks of creation, one can go on twitter and pretty much let it run on auto, and you will trick a lot of people into thinking you are replying to them.
It would take years and years of writing codes in for this to be deemed artificial intelligence, but I am sure this is all it is, in a nut shell.
I am sure this is how that android app Siri works too, with added features to search and do commands and instead of it reading lines of text, its hearing words and replying from reading from lines of text
Yeah, the whole story is bogus and the press just went along with what they were told.
The "computer" in question was just a chatbot. Very few websites even acknowledged this fact with a number of them even saying a "supercomputer" passed the Turing test.
Never mind that it's just a chatbot with programmed script responses. Never mind that it's not even the first chatbot to do this. Never mind that the other chatbots who passed did better than this one. And never mind that the Turing test is not really that great an indicator of actual intelligence and isn't even the same test that Turing himself created.
This is just kinda a
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kinda thing.
kashmir
Well-Known Member
Yeah, the whole story is bogus and the press just went along with what they were told.
The "computer" in question was just a chatbot. Very few websites even acknowledged this fact with a number of them even saying a "supercomputer" passed the Turing test.
Never mind that it's just a chatbot with programmed script responses. Never mind that it's not even the first chatbot to do this. Never mind that the other chatbots who passed did better than this one. And never mind that the Turing test is not really that great an indicator of actual intelligence and isn't even the same test that Turing himself created.
This is just kinda a
Yah but isn't this the whole coding needed to even make artificial intelligence?
I really see no other way to do it.
Everything about computers is nothing but scripts working off commands.
Artificial intelligence is nothing but a chat bot and that is all it can ever be.
Even if it can "learn" its still a chat bot.
My guess is it's been around for over 20 years at least.
That simple line of code can be exploited to do whatever, shocked after all this time, they have not advanced it past Siri on android.
I would, but after Mirc, I know nothing more.
But I did pretty much program a twitter bot
Its too complicated to sale though or I would.
The average joe would never get it to connect to twitter.
Its a hot item, ppl pay big money for those sites that offer auto posting for twitter.
But yah, even this guy is just an advanced chat bot, he even explains.
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