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For election fraud and conspiracy theory believers -- dump your evidence here!

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I have noticed, in passing, that there are members of RF who do seem to believe that the last election was won by Biden fraudulently. I suspect (but can't cite direct evidence) that there are some who believe some of the other recent conspiracy theories afloat out there -- you know, Qanon, COVID-19 is a plot, vaccines have nano-bits to control you or monitor you, and so forth.

So, let's gather all the evidence we can. Pick your favourite fraud or conspiracy, and lay out every shred of evidence of which you are aware. We can do this! We can prove that we're not nutbars!
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
For the record, I'm not expecting much in the way of responses in this thread. It doesn't take a super-genius (I believe there was only one -- Wile E. Coyote) to have noticed that even those theorists like Rudy Giuliani, who claimed to anybody who would listen that "this is all about election fraud," but when finally before a judge on the bench (who could find him in contempt!), always said, "this isn't about election fraud."
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
What I find interesting is how so many people are content with "TrumpSaidIt" until flat out asked for evidence to support "TrumpSaidIt"....
I mean, at least "GodDidIt" supporters are trying to show "GodDidIt"....
I see a strong correlation with conservative Christians with right wing extremists. I suspect the irrational habit of extreme religious belief prepped the extreme right to manipulate these folks politically. I was stunned that trump was nominated in 2016. And then stunned further that he got support from some moderate republicans.

I keep getting stunned by conservatives in politics.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
My dear RF comrade, this election fraud database does not reference any cases of election fraud pertaining to the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election.
Yes it does. It has several related to 2020 elections.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Please cite one specific example.
Why? You can’t be bothered to look yourself?

Perhaps you should read what the Heritage Foundation wrote in its about page for its site:

To be clear, this database is not an exhaustive or comprehensive list of all election fraud in the states. It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances or allegations of election fraud, some of which may be meritorious, some not, that are not investigated or prosecuted. Because of vulnerabilities that exist in state’s election laws, election fraud is relatively easy to commit and difficult to detect after the fact. Moreover, some public officials appear to be unconcerned with election fraud and fail to pursue cases that are reported to them. It is a general truism that you don’t find what you don’t look for.

This database is intended to highlight cases of proven fraud and the many ways in which fraud has been committed. This fraud, committed by Democrats, Republicans, and independents, happened because of vulnerabilities in the states’ election laws. ”

Sounds like you are among those that are unconcerned about voter fraudulent. Like they wrote, “You won’t find what you don’t look for.”
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Sorry, but that is an extremely poor site. If you have evidence for this election make it obvious. I went there and there was nothing to see. You cannot expect others to do your homework for you.

Quote and link, if not it is the same as admitting that you have nothing.
In Kansas our secretary of state some years ago was Kris Koback. He claimed massive voter fraud in Kansas elections. He worked hard to limit voting access. I think it was in the 2012 election he succeeded in interfering with over 10,000 citizens from voting through voter ID nonsense. He claimed he was going to prosecute thousands of fraudulent voters that still got through the system. In the end he found 6 people. Four of them thought they could vote in any county they owned property, so an error. I forgot what the 5th person did, but the 6th was an actual case of fraud. As some might remember Koback was picked by Trump to head a national voter fraud investigation. He took the job and after a few months that fell apart. No fraud.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Why? You can’t be bothered to look yourself?

Perhaps you should read what the Heritage Foundation wrote in its about page for its site:

To be clear, this database is not an exhaustive or comprehensive list of all election fraud in the states. It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances or allegations of election fraud, some of which may be meritorious, some not, that are not investigated or prosecuted. Because of vulnerabilities that exist in state’s election laws, election fraud is relatively easy to commit and difficult to detect after the fact. Moreover, some public officials appear to be unconcerned with election fraud and fail to pursue cases that are reported to them. It is a general truism that you don’t find what you don’t look for.

This database is intended to highlight cases of proven fraud and the many ways in which fraud has been committed. This fraud, committed by Democrats, Republicans, and independents, happened because of vulnerabilities in the states’ election laws. ”

Sounds like you are among those that are unconcerned about voter fraudulent. Like they wrote, “You won’t find what you don’t look for.”
Why? You can’t be bothered to look yourself?

Perhaps you should read what the Heritage Foundation wrote in its about page for its site:

To be clear, this database is not an exhaustive or comprehensive list of all election fraud in the states. It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances or allegations of election fraud, some of which may be meritorious, some not, that are not investigated or prosecuted. Because of vulnerabilities that exist in state’s election laws, election fraud is relatively easy to commit and difficult to detect after the fact. Moreover, some public officials appear to be unconcerned with election fraud and fail to pursue cases that are reported to them. It is a general truism that you don’t find what you don’t look for.

This database is intended to highlight cases of proven fraud and the many ways in which fraud has been committed. This fraud, committed by Democrats, Republicans, and independents, happened because of vulnerabilities in the states’ election laws. ”

Sounds like you are among those that are unconcerned about voter fraudulent. Like they wrote, “You won’t find what you don’t look for.”
Why? You can’t be bothered to look yourself?

Perhaps you should read what the Heritage Foundation wrote in its about page for its site:

To be clear, this database is not an exhaustive or comprehensive list of all election fraud in the states. It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances or allegations of election fraud, some of which may be meritorious, some not, that are not investigated or prosecuted. Because of vulnerabilities that exist in state’s election laws, election fraud is relatively easy to commit and difficult to detect after the fact. Moreover, some public officials appear to be unconcerned with election fraud and fail to pursue cases that are reported to them. It is a general truism that you don’t find what you don’t look for.

This database is intended to highlight cases of proven fraud and the many ways in which fraud has been committed. This fraud, committed by Democrats, Republicans, and independents, happened because of vulnerabilities in the states’ election laws. ”

Sounds like you are among those that are unconcerned about voter fraudulent. Like they wrote, “You won’t find what you don’t look for.”
My bad, I did not notice the few cases of voter fraud that did pertain to the 2020 U.S. Presidential election out of the hundreds of cases of voter fraud pertaining to other elections besides the 2020 U.S. Presidential election. A few persons were caught voting twice, and a man forged his daughter's signature on an absentee ballot addressed to the forger's daughter. These cases show there were anti voter fraud security measures in place having worked to detect and nullify voter fraud. Also, there were not evidently many cases of voter fraud during the 2020 Presidential election in comparison to other elections; this suggest to me there was indeed no widespread voter fraud having robbed Donald Trump of being reelected.
 

ecco

Veteran Member

You presented no evidence. You presented a Heritage Foundation synopsis showing 1328 proven cases of voter fraud.

If you had read the information yourself, you would have been able to tell us that those 1328 cases are for the years 1982 through 2021. Thirty-nine years.

If you had read the information yourself, you would have been able to tell us that those cases are from all different types of elected positions. County clerks, alderman, etc.




If you had read the OP correctly you would have seen that @Evangelicalhumanist asked for evidence that "the last election was won by Biden fraudulently".

Your response goes a long toward proving that claims of election fraud in the 2020 presidential election are all in the minds of the Sheeples and are not based on facts.

Why don't you go through your Heritage Foundation site and extract how many of those convictions actually pertained to the 2021 presidential election. Also, show how many illegal ballots were cast and for which candidate.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Yes it does. It has several related to 2020 elections.
How silly -- that site shows 1,328 instances of so-called "proven voter fraud," yet it covers nearly 40 years and a minimum of 10 elections, in which a total of more than 1,000,000,000 votes were cast! That comes to way less than one one thousandths of a percent. For cripe sake, you couldn't turn over a fried egg with that, let alone an election!
 
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ecco

Veteran Member
Yes it does. It has several related to 2020 elections.

Using Chrome, I googled "republicans convicted of 2020 voter fraud". Here is the first page of results.
https://www.businessinsider.com/voter-election-fraud-pennsylvania-charge-dead-mom-vote-trump-2020-12
Man Accused of Pretending to Be Dead Mom to Vote for Trump
https://www.businessinsider.com › Politics › News


Dec 21, 2020 — Bruce Bartman pretended to be his dead mom to cast a ballot for President Donald Trump, who lost the state anyway, prosecutors said.

Murphy's Law: 10 Republicans Accused of Voter Fraud ...
https://urbanmilwaukee.com › 2021/02/16 › murphys-l...


Feb 16, 2021 — Meet the folks who wanted to overturn Wisconsin's election. Legal complaint says they committed crimes.

Despite GOP rhetoric, there have been fewer than two dozen ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com › politics › 2021/05/04


May 4, 2021 — Before 2020, this is how President Donald Trump claimed voter fraud worked: People would vote, leave, come back in a hat and vote again.

2020 election exposed fraudulent Republican case on Voter ...
https://www.charlotteobserver.com › article247291039


Nov 22, 2020 — The 2020 election affirmed that election fraud is rare, and the kind of fraud that Voter ID would address - in-person illegal voting - is almost ...

Republican Convicted Of Election Fraud Helps Lead Trump ...
https://patch.com › michigan › across-mi › republican-c...


Nov 16, 2020 — Another pro-President Trump rally was held at the Michigan Capitol on Saturday as the "Million MAGA March" attracted thousands, including ...

Republican congressman charged with felonies related to ...
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › 2020 › jul


Jul 15, 2020 — Steve Watkins changed voter registration address to a UPS store in Topeka, Kansas, in 2019, the Topeka Capital-Journal reported.

Pennsylvania Man Charged With Voter Fraud For Casting ...
https://www.forbes.com › alisondurkee › 2020/12/21


Dec 21, 2020 — The Republican said he voted illegally “to reelect President Donald Trump.”

Election Fraud Cases | The Heritage Foundation
https://www.heritage.org › voterfraud-print › search › f...


He was charged with one count of impersonating another voter, one count of fraudulently requesting an absentee ballot, and one count of fraudulent voting, all ...

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud ...
https://www.reuters.com › article › north-carolina-repu...


Feb 27, 2019 — The North Carolina Republican political operative at the center of an absentee ballot fraud scheme that led the state to order a rerun of a ...

Kansas Republican Rep. Steve Watkins charged with voter ...
https://www.politico.com › news › 2020/07/14 › kansas...


Jul 14, 2020 — Kansas GOP Rep. Steve Watkins was charged Tuesday with three felony counts of voter fraud related to the 2019 municipal elections, ...


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Every case implicates Republicans. In the Watkins case, he has entered a diversion program to avoid prosecution. Summary:

Best Personalized Father's Day Gifts 2021
Updated: 10:21 PM CST Mar 2, 2021

TOPEKA, Kan. —

Former Congressman Steve Watkins of Kansas has entered a diversion program to avoid trial over allegations that he voted illegally in a 2019 municipal election.

Watkins, a Republican from Topeka who served only one term in the U.S. House, was facing three felony charges. He was accused of listing a postal box at a UPS store as his home on a state registration form when he was living temporarily at his parents' home. He was also charged with lying to a detective who investigated the case.

The Shawnee County district attorney filed the charges just weeks before the August 2020 primary, and Watkins lost to now-Rep. Jake LaTurner.

“I regret the error in my voter registration paperwork that led to these charges.
As you can see, it was not a case of Voter Fraud, it was just an error in his "voter registration paperwork". So, he's a liar as well as a cheat.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why wasn't any of this evidence presented in the 60 plus court cases? Or was it presented and of such poor quality that it was immediately rejected?
What the site shows is that voter fraud happens.
I saw no mention of Trump or 2020.
BTW, in MI, there was only 1 case from 2020.
I remembered it.
Twas was just a father trying to help his daughter
have her vote count. (I found no info on who she
wanted to vote for.) The state did ultimately accept
her ballot. So the fraud was technical, rather than
something that caused a wrongful vote.
Ref....
Canton man pleads guilty to voting fraud misdemeanor
 

McBell

Unbound
Using Chrome, I googled "republicans convicted of 2020 voter fraud". Here is the first page of results.
Man Accused of Pretending to Be Dead Mom to Vote for Trump
https://www.businessinsider.com › Politics › News


Dec 21, 2020 — Bruce Bartman pretended to be his dead mom to cast a ballot for President Donald Trump, who lost the state anyway, prosecutors said.

Murphy's Law: 10 Republicans Accused of Voter Fraud ...
https://urbanmilwaukee.com › 2021/02/16 › murphys-l...


Feb 16, 2021 — Meet the folks who wanted to overturn Wisconsin's election. Legal complaint says they committed crimes.

Despite GOP rhetoric, there have been fewer than two dozen ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com › politics › 2021/05/04


May 4, 2021 — Before 2020, this is how President Donald Trump claimed voter fraud worked: People would vote, leave, come back in a hat and vote again.

2020 election exposed fraudulent Republican case on Voter ...
https://www.charlotteobserver.com › article247291039


Nov 22, 2020 — The 2020 election affirmed that election fraud is rare, and the kind of fraud that Voter ID would address - in-person illegal voting - is almost ...

Republican Convicted Of Election Fraud Helps Lead Trump ...
https://patch.com › michigan › across-mi › republican-c...


Nov 16, 2020 — Another pro-President Trump rally was held at the Michigan Capitol on Saturday as the "Million MAGA March" attracted thousands, including ...

Republican congressman charged with felonies related to ...
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › 2020 › jul


Jul 15, 2020 — Steve Watkins changed voter registration address to a UPS store in Topeka, Kansas, in 2019, the Topeka Capital-Journal reported.

Pennsylvania Man Charged With Voter Fraud For Casting ...
https://www.forbes.com › alisondurkee › 2020/12/21


Dec 21, 2020 — The Republican said he voted illegally “to reelect President Donald Trump.”

Election Fraud Cases | The Heritage Foundation
https://www.heritage.org › voterfraud-print › search › f...


He was charged with one count of impersonating another voter, one count of fraudulently requesting an absentee ballot, and one count of fraudulent voting, all ...

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud ...
https://www.reuters.com › article › north-carolina-repu...


Feb 27, 2019 — The North Carolina Republican political operative at the center of an absentee ballot fraud scheme that led the state to order a rerun of a ...

Kansas Republican Rep. Steve Watkins charged with voter ...
https://www.politico.com › news › 2020/07/14 › kansas...


Jul 14, 2020 — Kansas GOP Rep. Steve Watkins was charged Tuesday with three felony counts of voter fraud related to the 2019 municipal elections, ...


Page Navigation
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next
Every case implicates Republicans. In the Watkins case, he has entered a diversion program to avoid prosecution. Summary:

Best Personalized Father's Day Gifts 2021
Updated: 10:21 PM CST Mar 2, 2021

TOPEKA, Kan. —

Former Congressman Steve Watkins of Kansas has entered a diversion program to avoid trial over allegations that he voted illegally in a 2019 municipal election.

Watkins, a Republican from Topeka who served only one term in the U.S. House, was facing three felony charges. He was accused of listing a postal box at a UPS store as his home on a state registration form when he was living temporarily at his parents' home. He was also charged with lying to a detective who investigated the case.

The Shawnee County district attorney filed the charges just weeks before the August 2020 primary, and Watkins lost to now-Rep. Jake LaTurner.

“I regret the error in my voter registration paperwork that led to these charges.
As you can see, it was not a case of Voter Fraud, it was just an error in his "voter registration paperwork". So, he's a liar as well as a cheat.
What I find the most comical is that Trump claimed mass voter fraud is what cost him the election, but every time voter fraud was found, which was almost nil, it was republicans trying to cheat Trump into office...

To be honest, I do not know which is worse, that Trump is STILL pushing the Big Lie, or that there are idiots who believe his Big Lie is true.

And yes, I am flat out calling all who believe the Big Lie idiots.
And that is because it is against forum rules to say what I really honesty think ....
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What the site shows is that voter fraud happens.
I saw no mention of Trump or 2020.
BTW, in MI, there was only 1 case from 2020.
I remembered it.
Twas was just a father trying to help his daughter
have her vote count. (I found no info on who she
wanted to vote for.) The state did ultimately accept
her ballot. So the fraud was technical, rather than
something that caused a wrongful vote.
Ref....
Canton man pleads guilty to voting fraud misdemeanor
Yes, I saw that too. I could see that it was not what the poster claimed that it was.

Now the question is did @Shaul lie or did he just copy and paste a source that he was told had the evidence needed to justify Trump's victory?
 
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