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For Parents: If God Told You To...

BobbyisStrange

The Adversary
This question is aimed at theists...If your God came to you and commanded that you sacrifice your child to him/her/it or them, would you do it?
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
i'm sorry but i believe the point in your question will fall on a lot of deaf ears and you'll most likely get something along the lines of this;
'but he won't, jesus was the ultimate sacrifice...'
:ignore:
 

BobbyisStrange

The Adversary
i'm sorry but i believe the point in your question will fall on a lot of deaf ears and you'll most likely get something along the lines of this;
'but he won't, jesus was the ultimate sacrifice...'
:ignore:

you are probably right...I still would like to see if anyone actually answers the question...Tumbleweed did!!!!
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I agree, reruns are boring. We Christians never give the answers that you guys want to hear, anyway. ;)

But for the record, Abraham did NOT sacrifice his son- God never intended for him to. A sheep got stuck in the bushes and God told him to sacrifice that instead. If you read the whole story, you will see these things for yourself. :)
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
I agree, reruns are boring. We Christians never give the answers that you guys want to hear, anyway. ;)

But for the record, Abraham did NOT sacrifice his son- God never intended for him to. A sheep got stuck in the bushes and God told him to sacrifice that instead. If you read the whole story, you will see these things for yourself. :)
Not that he knew that ahead of time, thus defeating your point.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
If I heard a voice telling me to sacrifice my son, I wouldn´t believe it to be a good god or one that diserves worship or obidience from me.

But for the record, Abraham did NOT sacrifice his son- God never intended for him to.

But Abraham did fully intended to sacrifice his son because a voice in his head told him to.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
If I heard a voice telling me to sacrifice my son, I wouldn´t believe it to be a good god or one that deserves worship or obedience from me.



But Abraham did fully intended to sacrifice his son because a voice in his head told him to.

Are you sure it was a "voice in his head"? That is a whole other debate.

Besides I am talking about God- not Abraham. Abraham was just a human like the rest of us. So it doesn't actually defeat what I am saying. God had no intention of letting Abraham sacrifice his child.
I just don't see God as the ogre everyone makes of him. T
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
What I mean is that technically speaking, if a theist hears God´s voice, he has no way of saying if he is not hallucinating plain and simple.

So, doing anything that seems immoral because God (read, what you believe is God) told you to, seems dangerous.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
What I mean is that technically speaking, if a theist hears God´s voice, he has no way of saying if he is not hallucinating plain and simple.

So, doing anything that seems immoral because God (read, what you believe is God) told you to, seems dangerous.

Abraham was a special case. God wouldn't ask that of us now, at least I don't think He would. And you know what we Christians and others would say- "If God says it, it isn't immoral". I haven't heard any voices in my head yet in my 46 years.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
And you know what we Christians and others would say- "If God says it, it isn't immoral". I haven't heard any voices in my head yet in my 46 years.

The problem is where it comes to interpret what is God.

for many, the bible is the word of God. A logical conclusion could be that killing homosexuals cannot be immoral. Nor bullying teen homosexuals until they decide to killthemselves. As "God" says, "The blood is in their (homosexuals)heads"
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Are you sure it was a "voice in his head"? That is a whole other debate.

Besides I am talking about God- not Abraham. Abraham was just a human like the rest of us. So it doesn't actually defeat what I am saying. God had no intention of letting Abraham sacrifice his child.
I just don't see God as the ogre everyone makes of him. T
And I don't think that doing that to a person is a good act even if everyone lives.

Of course, things worked out less well in other situations. No angels or magic sheep hiding in bushes were around to help Jephthah's daughter.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
First of all, God had not revealed himself to Abraham as he has done so for us. For instance, Abraham did not have any scriptures to refer to, to determine the character of God, or to even put this concept of God the Almighty in context.

All we can offer is conjecture as to how Abraham heard God's command. A lot would depend on just "how" this came about. I mean, different modes of communication get our attention in different ways.

Finally, there is no such thing as "what might have been." There is only "what is." "What is" in this case is that Abraham did NOT sacrifice his son. God, being omnipotent, knew this would be the outcome.

It is what it is.

Now - to answer your question. In the context of 21st century Christianity, I do not believe that the God I worship would expect me to sacrifice my child. So, if I started hearing voices telling me to do this, I would make an appointment with a psychiatrist immediately.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Now - to answer your question. In the context of 21st century Christianity, I do not believe that the God I worship would expect me to sacrifice my child. So, if I started hearing voices telling me to do this, I would make an appointment with a psychiatrist immediately.

We are on the same page! :D
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
It would mean that God contradict himself when he said that human-sacrifices are forbidden therefore god could not command us to do so. Also according to the teachings the sacrifice ''son'' wanted to be sacrificed if it pleased god.

If your question is: is anybody devoted enough to kill or be killed for in sake of salvation then i think the answer is yes, but then a problem occurs that God is immoral and unjust and contradicted himself in many ways.
 
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