The belief of anything without material data is absurd. It is absolutely absurd to assert fantasy as possible.
You're promoting an opinion, not fact here. More so, the existence of God is completely possible. It may be improbable, but that is different. To label such an idea as being fantasy is an opinion, and a very biased one at that. You can't pass it off as fact.
How is that not obvious? Fantasy brings about an infinite amount of scenarios.
Is the idea of God a fantasy though? You can't show that. So your argument isn't obvious, or built on a solid foundation.
Your defense is that it is reasonable and logical as long as its done personally. That these wild beliefs are valid as long as they are not forced upon others.
That's not my defense at all. I never said that the belief in God is reasonable or logical. I never suggested Creationism was either. And I said nothing about forcing them on others. You're making a straw man here.
Although, I do agree with that in the sense that some topics will always be subjective but, overall, people have to hold themselves accountable for their beliefs.
I agree. But that is neither here nor there in regards to the topic.
The best process for anyone are those that are based on objective measurements.
That's an opinion, and a very biased opinion. What works best for you doesn't necessarily work best for others.
Otherwise, people can convince themselves of anything good or bad. People could be living in fear of imaginary repercussions because they believe in an entity that would punish for arbitrary rules.
People can do that anyway. One could say that is part of human nature. People, using objective measurements, convince themselves and others of bs all the time. Those objective measurements even change as more data is given.
And who cares if people may be living in fear of imaginary repercussions. That's there right. If they want to believe in God, and believe that God has set out some arbitrary rules to live by, so be it, as long as they don't hurt others. That's called freedom.
My criticism to all theists is purely this. That they all rely on a subjective process to rule their lives.
And that is completely false. I'm a theist. That in no way rules my life. Look up fideism. Look up liberal theology. You're statement here is simply false.
The hypocrisy I detailed is the following. I stated several things prior to this. Other theists suggested them as artificial and also wanted me to prove my assertions. That is hypocrisy coming from theists whom will never be able to prove their beliefs. Plain and simple.
This is silly, plain and simple. You are acting as if all theists are a unified front, and thus, what one says reflects on another. I'm not being a hypocrite because you talked to a different theist that said something else. That's ridiculous.
If you claim that God doesn't exist, or is a fantasy, or anything, I will ask you to prove that. I will do that exact same thing if someone claims that God exists. Any definitive statement on God's existence should be challenged, as God's existence, either positive or negative, can't be proven.
What can't be challenged is someone saying they have faith God exists, or doesn't exist. That's not a definitive statement, and it doesn't rely on proof.
However, the same process that enables good from theists is EXACTLY the same process that enables destruction, hate, and bigotry from theists. It is the subjective nature of their belief systems that enables this. IMO, the greater good is to reform these processes to allow for objective measurements. Otherwise, if you have a suggestion to stop these destructive, hateful and bigoted beliefs from theists then I'm all ears.
What enables hate, bigotry, and destruction is not theism in any way. Its humanity. It's human nature. Humans will find any reason to justify it. Take away religion, and you will have the same exact issue.
Look at slavery in the U.S. It was never justified by Christianity until a movement arose to have slavery abolished. This movement was largely led by Christians who cited the Bible as a source. Jews were also pretty active in this, again, using religious text to support the abolition of slavery. It is only after that that proponents of slavery turned to religion to justify an institution that had previously been justified because of economics. And then, the justification came from a twisted reading of Noah's story. More to this, when the South ceded, their defense of slavery had nothing to do with religion, but with economics. By objective measurements.
My point is that religion is not the reason for the hate, bigotry, etc. you point to. It exists in the non-religious as well, as is defended through a variety of manners. Removing religion does nothing.