"Forced Genital Cutting," and Jewish circumcision

[mycorrhiza]

Well, dude, you know that I support parental right to choose.

But, I can understand why the thought of having your "pee pee" altered makes you a bit squirmy.

I think he was referring to the sensitivity of the glans. Having your foreskin retracted so that your glans rubs against the fabric of your underwear is very uncomfortable (wouldn't say that it hurts, though), so if there is no loss of sensitivity in circumcised individuals, I guess they just get used to that feeling.

 

[Me Myself]

For the record (and I know this should be taken with a grain of salt) but living with a normal foreskin, and being "protected" by it - the thought of not having any foreskin absolutely makes me cringe.

I mean, surely it must hurt not having that natural layer of protection?! :cover:

:sorry1:

I dont even remember the age someone told me I have had a part of my skin cut there. Given that I dont remember the age but I continue with indiference, I do know I never cared and I would have never figured it out on my own.

 

[Me Myself]

I think he was referring to the sensitivity of the glans. Having your foreskin retracted so that your glans rubs against the fabric of your underwear is very uncomfortable (wouldn't say that it hurts, though), so if there is no loss of sensitivity in circumcised individuals, I guess they just get used to that feeling.

Never had such problem in my life.

The closest I have had of penis harm from pants is waking up and going to school. Waiting for the erection to fade out

 

[mycorrhiza]

I think I touched on both these ideas, in earlier posts.

Are we going around in circles? Tattoos and ear stretching can be distinguished because they do not produce a medical benefit. But I imagine if small plugs were linked to a large decrease in ear infections you might find more kids with plugs.

The medical benefit of circumcision that is relevant to small children is negligible (now that's a difficult word to spell!). The only relevant benefit is that one third of a second you save retracting the foreskin to clean. It's not exactly difficult to keep clean.

I dont think I have ever used lube nor felt the need to. The desire, sure, but never the NEED.

I cant really imagine why would someone have problems masturbating themselves jaut for being circumsized, neither I have had the problem, nor my sexual partner has had the problem when humoring me.

Whatever you googled, its just wrong o.0

I guess you must have a very insensitive glans or use a different method then. Everyone basically said the same thing when I googled it (except for one, who suggested talc instead of lube).

 

[mycorrhiza]

Never had such problem in my life.

The closest I have had of penis harm from pants is waking up and going to school. Waiting for the erection to fade out

Then, as I said, you're either less sensitive or might have grown so used to it that you don't feel it.

I wasn't talking about harm, just discomfort.

 

[Me Myself]

The medical benefit of circumcision that is relevant to small children is negligible (now that's a difficult word to spell!). The only relevant benefit is that one third of a second you save retracting the foreskin to clean. It's not exactly difficult to keep clean.




I guess you must have a very insensitive glans or use a different method then. Everyone basically said the same thing when I googled it (except for one, who suggested talc instead of lube).

Insensitive? I am not following at all. No one I knows needs lube to masturbate. I have no idea what on Earth do those guys got themselves cut out or if their doctors were drunk or what.

You just masturbate and it feels nice. Thats it. The method is no rocket science at all. You get a grip, then you make forward backward motion in the rythm of predilection till full satisfaction.

I truly have no idea what could you possibly be talking about,

 

[Me Myself]

The most common problem for men tends to be quick and easy arousal and ejaculation, from where do this people are coming from that allegedly have lost sensitivity?

Like, more sensitive penises wouldnt get a chance in hell to please a woman o.o

 

[mycorrhiza]

Insensitive? I am not following at all. No one I knows needs lube to masturbate. I have no idea what on Earth do those guys got themselves cut out or if their doctors were drunk or what.

You just masturbate and it feels nice. Thats it. The method is no rocket science at all. You get a grip, then you make forward backward motion in the rythm of predilection till full satisfaction.

I truly have no idea what could you possibly be talking about,

In uncircumcised individuals, the glans is quite sensitive and masturbating the same way that you usually would without a foreskin would thus be uncomfortable.
Your methods might be different from uncircumcised individuals (maybe you don't even touch the glans, what do I know, I don't hold a PhD in masturbatory studies).

 

[mycorrhiza]

The most common problem for men tends to be quick and easy arousal and ejaculation, from where do this people are coming from that allegedly have lost sensitivity?

Like, more sensitive penises wouldnt get a chance in hell to please a woman o.o

Loss of sensitivity is not the same thing as having little sensitivity. Foreskin or not, the penis is a very sensitive organ.

That depends on practice and skill . Most people here are uncircumcised and I doubt that their sex lives consist of five minutes at most.

 

[Curious George]

The medical benefit of circumcision that is relevant to small children is negligible (now that's a difficult word to spell!). The only relevant benefit is that one third of a second you save retracting the foreskin to clean. It's not exactly difficult to keep clean.




I guess you must have a very insensitive glans or use a different method then. Everyone basically said the same thing when I googled it (except for one, who suggested talc instead of lube).

This is not quite true. Early in life the foreskin is attached to the glans. This naturally detaches over time. However, one cannot simply retract the foreskin to clean as well as if the penis was circumcised. Moreover, some people have extremely long foreskins, which make cleaning harder. Finally, cleaning underneath skin is not as efficient as cleaningskin.

Children are notorious for not cleaning well. They will wet the toothbrush just to lie about having brushed their teeth.

I know it may seem like a simple solution that people can just wash better, but the fact remains there is a large statistical difference in the number of uti a intact child has compared to a cut child.

 

[Curious George]

Insensitive? I am not following at all. No one I knows needs lube to masturbate. I have no idea what on Earth do those guys got themselves cut out or if their doctors were drunk or what.

You just masturbate and it feels nice. Thats it. The method is no rocket science at all. You get a grip, then you make forward backward motion in the rythm of predilection till full satisfaction.

I truly have no idea what could you possibly be talking about,

I believe the miscommunication comes in exactly where one grips.

 

[Me Myself]

Loss of sensitivity is not the same thing as having little sensitivity. Foreskin or not, the penis is a very sensitive organ.

That depends on practice and skill . Most people here are uncircumcised and I doubt that their sex lives consist of five minutes at most.

I am exagerating

What I mean is that with men being as easily stimulated and this being so in most places including those with massive circumsicion, why would you imagine masturbation to be problematic?

I believe the miscommunication comes in exactly where one grips.

The neck? Idk, its just standard.

 

[mycorrhiza]

I believe the miscommunication comes in exactly where one grips.

I am exagerating

What I mean is that with men being as easily stimulated and this being so in most places including those with massive circumsicion, why would you imagine masturbation to be problematic?

The neck? Idk, its just standard.

I know that you can grip below the glans, but since the glans is the most sensitive part, shouldn't the stimulation of that part be in focus?

 

[mycorrhiza]

This is not quite true. Early in life the foreskin is attached to the glans. This naturally detaches over time. However, one cannot simply retract the foreskin to clean as well as if the penis was circumcised. Moreover, some people have extremely long foreskins, which make cleaning harder. Finally, cleaning underneath skin is not as efficient as cleaningskin.

Children are notorious for not cleaning well. They will wet the toothbrush just to lie about having brushed their teeth.

I know it may seem like a simple solution that people can just wash better, but the fact remains there is a large statistical difference in the number of uti a intact child has compared to a cut child.

I didn't know that it was attached at an early stage!

I haven't heard of UTIs being a common problem in any country where circumcision is rare and only performed by those who do it for religious reasons. Anyway, I'd say that an easily curable infection isn't worse than permanent removal of a part of the penis.

 

[Me Myself]

I know that you can grip below the glans, but since the glans is the most sensitive part, shouldn't the stimulation of that part be in focus?

Very rarely. I find my glans too sensitive, with luve it would be far too sensitive even.

(I admit I wasnt sure what glans meant till I googled it, in spanish its generally just refered as "the head" )

 

[Me Myself]

I didn't know that it was attached at an early stage!

I haven't heard of UTIs being a common problem in any country where circumcision is rare and only performed by those who do it for religious reasons. Anyway, I'd say that an easily curable infection isn't worse than permanent removal of a part of the penis.

By all means enjoy yours, I am telling you though, no one I knows missed theirs

I am certainly happy about being circumsized even if I dont care for the religious ritual anymore. I dont think it would be very different my life in any way if I wasnt and lived in a country whereot being circumsized was the usual.

Its just truly unimportant to almost all circumsized people.

 

[Curious George]

I didn't know that it was attached at an early stage!

I haven't heard of UTIs being a common problem in any country where circumcision is rare and only performed by those who do it for religious reasons. Anyway, I'd say that an easily curable infection isn't worse than permanent removal of a part of the penis.

You are right. Not only is it an easily curable infection, it is also one which the body regularly cures on it's own. In rare cases an infection's can be really bad, but largely- UTI's will come and go. People just need to drink more cranberry juice.

Is it worth it, though? That is a decision concerning the medical well-being of another person's child. Thus, unless we alter our conception of child rearing, it is the parent of that child's decision. I personally do not feel that it is "worth" it, but at the same time I do not feel that the harm is "worth" stepping on free exercise of religion nor parental rights.

 

[mycorrhiza]

Very rarely. I find my glans too sensitive, with luve it would be far too sensitive even.

(I admit I wasnt sure what glans meant till I googled it, in spanish its generally just refered as "the head" )

If you have a foreskin over it, then the sensitivity is no problem .

(I had to google it too. Here it's called "the acorn".)

 

[Me Myself]

If you have a foreskin over it, then the sensitivity is no problem .

(I had to google it too. Here it's called "the acorn".)

Dk, I just dont care about it.

 

[Me Myself]

You are right. Not only is it an easily curable infection, it is also one which the body regularly cures on it's own. In rare cases an infection's can be really bad, but largely- UTI's will come and go. People just need to drink more cranberry juice.

Is it worth it, though? That is a decision concerning the medical well-being of another person's child. Thus, unless we alter our conception of child rearing, it is the parent of that child's decision. I personally do not feel that it is "worth" it, but at the same time I do not feel that the harm is "worth" stepping on free exercise of religion nor parental rights.

On this I stand mostly on parental rights.

Again, most people dont care at all. Yu ll find them upset about any other thing their parents did or did not do to him and they wont even imagine talking about circumsicion.