Fox News is unAmerican and anti humanity!

[Kuzcotopia]

So which news agency taught you hatred of Conservatives? Who taught you that people that disagree with you, should be considered evil?

I don't hate conservatives. I never said anyone was evil.

 

[Revoltingest]

For a couple years, I watched Bill O'Reilly every day, to try and understand what the hell.

You have a strong constitution.
I could never bear him.

It's it rampant at all, and I don't understand where that's coming from.

Maybe part of the "persecution complex" driven into conservatives by right wing media? I dunno. . . Outside a few college campuses where kids do and say stupid things sometimes when their fiery and young, conservative persecution is a fiction.

Edit: interestingly, these same kids are often perpetrated as being the voices of all liberals on Fox News, at least when I watch it.

I'm not thinking of persecution, but rather of reciprocal attitudes...hatred,
abuse, derision, accusation, fear, demonization, intolerance.

 

[Stevicus]

This poses an interesting problem.
All those criticizing Fox News so severely must base their views on watching it.
Certainly, progressives would not be prejudiced.
So they must be viewers.
I tip my hat to them, for I could not bear to stomach sitting thru such drivel.
(I've seen it, but cannot watch it.)

I don't generally watch Fox News either. I only have cable internet, but I don't have cable TV connected. On the occasions I have watched Fox News, my main complaint was the overabundance of commercials they had. Commercial after commercial after commercial. I got tired of it.

But you make a good point. A lot of people apparently watch Fox News just so they can criticize it, and this may be what boosts their ratings. If people would just stop watching it, it will go away.

 

[osgart]

why can't conservatives and liberals just go away, they are both utter failures.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't generally watch Fox News either. I only have cable internet, but I don't have cable TV connected. On the occasions I have watched Fox News, my main complaint was the overabundance of commercials they had. Commercial after commercial after commercial. I got tired of it.

But you make a good point. A lot of people apparently watch Fox News just so they can criticize it, and this may be what boosts their ratings. If people would just stop watching it, it will go away.

Maybe lefties are Fox's biggest audience share, eh?
Maybe Fox caters to their expectations....juicing up stories' vulnerability to criticism, eh?
But I suspect that many critics don't watch it.
They just know Fox lies....it must be true....so many others say so too.
And so they rail against it with confidence.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

I'm not thinking of persecution, but rather of reciprocal attitudes...hatred,
abuse, derision, accusation, fear, demonization, intolerance.

Not sure any of that is present on CNN, MSNBC, or any other network the way it exists on Fox. There simply is no equivalency.

I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said NOT A LIBERAL. Not a big deal, and one sticker doesn't indict anyone. . . But you don't see NOT A CONSERVATIVE on the bumpers of liberals, do you?

Again, while I can't paint a picture of an entire political viewpoint based on this one guy, let's think about that guy. His little symbol of explaining what he believes in can be summed up by expressing what he definitely isn't.

I get standing FOR something, but that one guy is messed up in the head, and I think you'd have to agree.

The question is, how did he get that way? Is his way of thinking common? Is that way one thinking as common on the other side?

A little self-reflection about our own ways of thinking could go a long way here. I don't hate any ideology, but I certainly don't like people who hate an ideology, and define themselves by that hate.

 

[Akivah]

I don't hate conservatives. I never said anyone was evil.

On post#15, you said"

The problem with Fox News is their viewers....It works because they're stupid. It works because the network tells them their smart by exclusively watching Fox and not a variety of networks.
{snip}
In this case Fox News allows viewers to hate, hate, hate the evil liberal
{snip}
Don't hate the news, hate the people who watch it.

It sounds like you have strong feelings against people that have different viewpoints from you and you say you hate the people that watch Fox News. So you do hate Fox viewers, presumably conservatives.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

why can't conservatives and liberals just go away, they are both utter failures.

How so? What will be successful?
What's success mean?

 

[Kuzcotopia]

On post#15, you said"

It sounds like you have strong feelings against people that have different viewpoints from you and you say you hate the people that watch Fox News. So you do hate Fox viewers, presumably conservatives.

Not what I said.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Welcome to capitalism, is this your first day?

They are obviously selling something people are buying or they won't be on the air, so really the problem is not the news it is the people watching the news. I don't know what the solution is, but I think it is important to realize the correct root of the problem.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

why can't conservatives and liberals just go away, they are both utter failures.

If they were both "utter failures" there would be no America.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not sure any of that is present on CNN, MSNBC, or any other network the way it exists on Fox. There simply is no equivalency.

It's not an easy thing to measure, but I don't think it's equivalent either.
From what I see here, it's worse from the left than from Fox.

 

[Yerda]

The problem with Fox News is their viewers. Why this is as mainstream as it is, and not some harmless public access ranting, is just an indictment of a swath of US viewers.

It works because they're stupid. It works because the network tells them their smart by exclusively watching Fox and not a variety of networks. It works because some human beings don't want to stand for anything except hating another who isn't them.

In this case Fox News allows viewers to hate, hate, hate the evil liberal, who wants to destroy America, take away your rights, and make you be an atheist depended on the government. If your morals are vacuous, and you need to find meaning by hating something or someone else, then Fox News is your bag, baby.

Don't hate the news, hate the people who watch it. It's entirely their fault.

Every time someone accuses their political opponents of stupidity Rupert Murdoch eats a baby.

 

[metis]

I only watch Fox when I have uncontrollable masochistic tendencies.

 

[Valjean]

,Revoltingest
Would Fox News simply be just the right leaning element in news which spans a large spectrum?

No, it's more than that. It was conceived of and designed to be the propaganda arm of the GOP. It is a propaganda network.
Roger Ailes' Secret Nixon-Era Blueprint for Fox News

But you make a good point. A lot of people apparently watch Fox News just so they can criticize it, and this may be what boosts their ratings. If people would just stop watching it, it will go away.

But it's not a commercial venture like the network news shows. Profits are nice, but it would still be funded by corporate interests like Koch Industries even if it was operating at a loss.

why can't conservatives and liberals just go away, they are both utter failures.

How so? What political group do you see as successful?

 

[Revoltingest]

No, it's more than that. It was conceived of and designed to be the propaganda arm of the GOP. It is a propaganda network.

Evidence for this conspiracy?
But whatever the intentions behind its origins, if it functions as such, then what matters is that it is what it is.
But this isn't really a problem because it balances arms of the other party, eg, NPR, MSNBC, Huff Po.
Btw. the last one just might've originated from that agenda.

 

[Stevicus]

No, it's more than that. It was conceived of and designed to be the propaganda arm of the GOP. It is a propaganda network.
Roger Ailes' Secret Nixon-Era Blueprint for Fox News

Too bad Nixon died before he could see Fox News in full bloom. I'm sure he would have loved it. They may have even given him his own show: Nixon's Nattering Nabobs.

But it's not a commercial venture like the network news shows. Profits are nice, but it would still be funded by corporate interests like Koch Industries even if it was operating at a loss.

Well, they do have a lot of commercials. Still, they have pretty high ratings among the cable news networks. Someone must be watching them. But they probably wouldn't even need the Kochs, since Fox entertainment and sports programming would be able to carry the news network if it was operating at a loss. If people want to boycott Fox News, they'd have to boycott everything owned by Fox.

 

[metis]

No, it's more than that. It was conceived of and designed to be the propaganda arm of the GOP. It is a propaganda network.
Roger Ailes' Secret Nixon-Era Blueprint for Fox News

Exactly, as Murdock has long been known for his support of "conservative" causes and parties, and not just in the U.S. Obviously, he and his sons have a legal right to do this, no doubt, but you are correct in saying that it's pretty much a GOP propaganda tool, much like MSNBC is one that's more for the Dems.

 

[YmirGF]

I see people in America as Americans and Humans first! Not black or Muslim! Fox News is a cancer that should be cut out of America!

They say Mexican women want a lot of children. Women are people not baby factories!

I believe human reproduction should be limited to stop humanity from destroying Earth! Birth control and teachers as well as soldiers should be shipped to third world nations to spread the modern 21st Century humanist ideology!

Fox News contributes nothing to humanity!

They don't build spaceships!

They don't make laser guns!

They don't build schools!

They don't produce birth control!

Sounds like a variation of the no true Scotsman fallacy.

 

[Valjean]

Exactly, as Murdock has long been known for his support of "conservative" causes and parties, and not just in the U.S. Obviously, he and his sons have a legal right to do this, no doubt, but you are correct in saying that it's pretty much a GOP propaganda tool, much like MSNBC is one that's more for the Dems.

Fox is Republican propaganda.
MSNBC reflects the Democratic viewpoint.
Free Speech TV reflects the liberal/Progressive viewpoint.

Don't confuse the Democratic Party with progressivism.