Oh, it's so cute when examples of the phenomenon arrive to demonstrate it!
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Fox Republicans Vs. Non-Fox Republicans
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tytlyf
Not Religious
Examples? Ok, fox, the blaze, breitbart, rush, etc all work together to push the narrative. If you'll notice, they also link to each other for sources. Repeating the same thing over and over. Here's a small example on Breitbart.
Notice the inevitable choice of staying 'inside' the echo chamber. You like to complain that the left does this as well, but never show any examples. Once you are in the 'bubble,' don't expect to see anything positive about democrats.
I've posted many.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Right wing media only shows 1 side of whats going on in the nation. Can you claim that for all other media?
My claims are less far reaching than yours.
The lack of examples is still noticeable.
Or rather the plethora of my examples has gone unnoticed.
Leftish apologists never acknowledge examples of mis-statements of fact I post..
But to turn the tables, you've given no examples here either.
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esmith
Veteran Member
There is no national news source that does not have a bias. Each one must have a viewer base to support their existence. This is most evident in the cable news programs like CNN, MSNBC, and FNC for example. If they lose their viewership they lose their advertisers then go out of business. Whether you agree or disagree with what FNC says you must give them credit for having the highest viewer ratings of the "big 4" (CNN, FNC, HLN, and MSNBC)
Ratings - TVNewser
additional numbers covering other cable programming
Cable News Ratings for Thursday, June 12, 2014 - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers.Zap2it.com
Now, the broadcast news programs probably have the highest number of viewers, but one must remember that they only have 30 min of air time which limits what they can cover. Which is for the most part fluff. In addition the average American's attention span and interest is probably 30 min or less as far as news goes.
Ratings - TVNewser
additional numbers covering other cable programming
Cable News Ratings for Thursday, June 12, 2014 - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers.Zap2it.com
Now, the broadcast news programs probably have the highest number of viewers, but one must remember that they only have 30 min of air time which limits what they can cover. Which is for the most part fluff. In addition the average American's attention span and interest is probably 30 min or less as far as news goes.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Wouldn't you agree that fox has it's ratings because they don't have another republican (conservative) competitor? If they did, their ratings would drop.
But you have to love the argument that foxers use when all else fails, ratings. Sure, they have the best ratings as far as eyeballs.
What people never mention is that the highest paying ratings for advertisers are those ratings in the 25-55 year range I believe. Want to show me how fox actually fares with meaningful ratings?
esmith
Veteran Member
What factual meaningful ratings are you referencing? Not opinions now, actual data.
So, just out of curiosity where do you get your news from? Seems that you seem to know about a lot of reports from FNC. Is that your news source?
tytlyf
Not Religious
I follow all news. I rarely watch fox on TV, but used to watch them a decade or so ago. It's taken years to understand media and what they're doing. Or you could say it's a psychological perspective. If I watch MSNBC, sometimes Morning Joe and Maddow. I like Maddow because she's intelligent. If I'm in the mood for more middle reporting I'll turn on CNN. On Sundays I'll watch Meet The Press and Face the Nation. All other news is usually from the web. And yes I have RW media outlets on my list. Yesterday I watched CSPAN during the Live republican conference in Iowa I believe it was.
Trust me, I do tons of research before believing anything. This is what I tell my family who watches fox (although I have told them not to) about the republican party. They aren't conservative, I think it's just a habit or attachment they've made to fox over the years and haven't realized it.
As mentioned before, they are in the top 1% and vote republican for tax reasons.
I told my stepfather that the republican party is the party of the top 1%. He said, if that's true, they wouldn't have enough votes to win. I agreed and mentioned that that is where fox and some of the outlets come into play. They know they need votes, so they target the most vulnerable in America to vote against their best interests. And he didn't really say anything.
I'd understand you voting republican if you were wealthy, outside of that it doesn't make any sense. It's all an illusion to get your vote.
Media Matters does not make up facts and spin everything out of context. You have no evidence of that. None. Your accusation amounts to a despicable smear.
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esmith
Veteran Member
You have failed to answer the question highlighted in RED Why and for whom I vote is not predicated by income. I vote for who I think will be the best for my Country and has a chance to win. I would vote for libertarians if I thought they had a chance on winning but I value my vote more than making a symbolic jester. So, I don't throw away my vote which could allow another Obama type politician into power.
Don't think I didn't notice that you used "jester" instead of "jesture", bub!
esmith
Veteran Member
tired been working in the yard...was gone for a few days and the weeds moved in. I did meant to write gesture but good ole computer put in jester and I didn't pay any attention as usual.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I'm just amused that after all these years people are still arguing over the journalistic integrity of 24 hour a day news-o-tainment. It's shiny fluff meant to attract the eye and ear using bright colors and loud sounds. Nothing more.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Yeah...but the evidence suggest that Fox News (TV or internet) readers/viewers are less informed....So how does higher percentile help your case if the people are less informed. You're appealing to quantity over quality....
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Exactly....:yes:
or your a small business owner trying to break the glass ceiling.
My only issue with your posts is when you act like we get our opinions from Fox.
I have been a conservative long before there ever was any cable news.
I have no cable or safelight right now, but when I did watch FOX it was to look at all the sexy conservative women.
esmith
Veteran Member
How are you making the assumption that the viewers are less informed. One would think that if viewers were not getting the information they desire they would not use that news source. Or is it that in your and others opinion that those that watch FNC do not agree with your political philosophy thus they are less informed? I happen to watch FNC and FBN and consider myself informed on what is going on. Now I may agree or disagree with an "opinion" expressed by FNC or FBN, but I know that they are covering stories that other news sources either do not report or touch on very briefly because it sheds a bad light on their political philosophy or figure.
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