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Freaking out about what we really can "know" here...

outhouse

Atheistically
but evil men have altered it

Your NO ONE to call names to anyone who founded this country on religious freedom and freedom from religion.


How dare you! you sound anti American. :rolleyes:


Why cant you understand you own religion and not judge others, you pervert the text anyway you like?
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
The knowledge men have for how to properly interact has been with us since Adam (we do not have to keep rediscovering it); it is just that men have chosen to ignore that knowledge because it interferes with what they want in terms of gratifying their lusts. God's laws as indicated in scripture provide the necessary instruction on how to behave. It is simply a matter of accepting and implementing them

If we were to follow the laws of the Tanahk or OT, we would be stoning people like me, have concubines, have slaves and a whole lot more. You have stated on multiple occasions that Jesus fulfilled all those laws but you continue to think being gay is against God's laws, which IMO, is cherry picking what you wish. How is that different than what you have said men did to the constitution, which btw, was written to have the Church and the government completely separate or have you not heard about that? The founding fathers may have had some Christians but most were deists and did not want the two entities combined. The Bible has no place whatsoever in governmental actions or laws.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
Awesome! Congratulations! Care to share the topic (and whether- fingers crossed- it is available from ProQuest Dissertations)? Either way, that's quite an achievement.
In the interest of not sharing private information, I can't give you the title but I will tell you that is was dealing with the shared commonalities of mystical experiences and how that may prove a more ubiquitous understanding of God. It was fascinating to research, particularly from the historical aspect of how there is so much more in common than most realize. Even across eons.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
Awesome! Congratulations! Care to share the topic (and whether- fingers crossed- it is available from ProQuest Dissertations)? Either way, that's quite an achievement.
Oh and thank you so very much for your remarks! Its early and not enough coffee!! LOL....very kind of you.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I found it to have so many commonalities,

Absolutely, I see it wrapped fully around the experience of being human. Focusing on different aspect for different times, and cultural changes..


It was truly fascinating

Why im here. ;)

I have to wonder how each separate faith can lay claim to being original.

I think the real search is finding one not plagiarized if that even exist.


Reminds me of two south American tribes that had no belief in a deity. But they still lived mythology with spirits and mysticism.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
Absolutely, I see it wrapped fully around the experience of being human. Focusing on different aspect for different times, and cultural changes..




Why im here. ;)



I think the real search is finding one not plagiarized if that even exist.


Reminds me of two south American tribes that had no belief in a deity. But they still lived mythology with spirits and mysticism.
All true. In my research, it was impossible to deny these commonalities in the experiences of mysticism. They mirror one another so completely across faiths and time and cultures. And all were so impacted by the cultures of the times as well. Catholics love to taut out their favorite mystics as being unique; St Theresa, St Francis, Hildegard of Bingen, etc, when in fact, the core elements of each experience is so clearly that of other faiths and cultures. Fasting, asceticism, isolation, denial of bodily needs, etc, are all at the core of each mystical experience. Begging the question of whether or not these experiences have more to do with imbalances in electrolytes, proteins, and so on, then they do with actual experiences with the divine.
 
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