Gabbard nominated as Director of National Intelligence

[TagliatelliMonster]

Our allies will certainly be careful what they tell a Trump admnistration given their coziness with Russia, our adversary.

Yep.

 

[Foxfyre]

The problem is that what @Estro Felino calls a "compromise", is really no more or less then Ukrainian surrender.
She doesn't care one bit about what happens to Ukraine as long as her hero Putin emerges victorious and gets what he wants.

Maybe I don't know. Do do know President Trump will do his very best to effect a win-win-compromise to stop the war.

 

[Foxfyre]

Win-win, in the situation where one side has committed the ultimate international crime and the other is defending it's home?

The best way of settling this would be for the aggressors to face justice in the Hague.

Win-win to Trump is a solution that is satisfactory to and agreed to by both sides .

 

[Estro Felino]

Maybe I don't know. Do do know President Trump will do his very best to effect a win-win-compromise to stop the war.

It's an incredible win-win because Ukraine will join the European Union and will be reconstructed.
And will finally be free from the Russian influence.

 

[Foxfyre]

It's an incredible win-win because Ukraine will join the European Union and will be reconstructed.
And will finally be free from the Russian influence.

Not sure how it will all play out. Right up to the Russia/Ukraine war, Russia was the No. 1 most corrupt nation in Europe and the Ukraine was No. 2. Zelensky rose to power on promises of reform but those reforms didn't happen. If anything, Zelensky increased the problem.

Ukraine's Zelenskiy ran on a reform platform — Is he delivering?

President Zelenskiy can still turn things around and become the pro-reform, anti-corruption champion that he promised Ukrainian voters, but if he does not, he will most likely follow in the footsteps of Presidents Yushchenko and Poroshenko, who were ousted by Ukrainian voters after one term.

www.brookings.edu

The Ukraine was awarded E.U. candidate status mostly out of sympathy for Russia's invasion and making war on that country. But when hostilities cease, the EU powers will have to consider if the Ukraine meets the standards required of E.U. members.

 

[Estro Felino]

Not sure how it will all play out. Right up to the Russia/Ukraine war, Russia was the No. 1 most corrupt nation in Europe and the Ukraine was No. 2. Zelensky rose to power on promises of reform but those reforms didn't happen. If anything, Zelensky increased the problem.

Of course. The corruption rose.
But the EU laws have anti-corruption laws... Europeans hunt down corrupt politicians as if they were adorable little mice:

The Ukraine was awarded E.U. candidate status mostly out of sympathy for Russia's invasion and making war on that country. But when hostilities cease, the EU powers will have to consider if the Ukraine meets the standards required of E.U. members.

Ukrainians haven't understood that they can't have the cake and eat it.
They must eliminate corruption and implement freedom of speech...if they wanna meet those standards.

 

[Sargonski]

ISIS evolved from Al-qaida in Iraq founded by Zarqawi in Iraq. After his death in 2006 it rebranded itself into Islamic State in Iraq.
The Obama administration was withdrawing troops from Iraq and it has been argued that this created a power vacuum which was exploited by ISI to expand and flourish.

In 2011 Syrian civil war broke out and ISI made us of the chaos that followed to gain territory and established itself as ISIS in June 2014.
As soon as August 2014, so no more then 2 months later, the US along with coalition forces started bombing ISIS position in Syria and Iraq and fighting against them.

The idea that Obama created the group is insanity beyond absurd.


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I did not say Obama created ISIS .. silly strawman nonsense.

Yea, ok. Not really interested if all you have are misrepresentations in bad faith.

Take care now.

You are the one who misrepresented position .. see above

Where have I ever expressed any such thing? I am pro-democracy, pro-freedom, and pro-Ukraine. I see Trump, putin, Orban, and Netanyahu as threats to democracy and global stability.

She's a hero of the far right, and many Russians who have criminal aims in Ukraine.

Like you're ugly and have bad breath, so your claims are untrue? I saw no such thing.

You accused another poster of loving tyrants and dictators .. as if this has some relevance to Tulsi Gabbard. .. Ad hom fallacy on steroids

Second you claim "Pro Ukraine" .. and you are a Biden supporter .. Ukraine is run by a dictator .. Genocide Joe is tyrant .. war criminal - Holocaust supporter . and so on .. so I suggested you take the stone out of your own eye .. prior to projecting your failings onto others..

and last .. that someone does not support spending treasure on Ukraine .. ..does not make one a Putin Supporter .. this Blue narrative is fallacious nonsense on steroids .. and a Typical Fascist Tactic .. an insidious lie .. propagandized through the propaganda mouthpiece Blue media.

Thats what Tyranny looks like .. u understand ? Right ! Thats what tyranny looks like . do you not recognize the paw prints in the Snow ?

but all that aside .. the primary point here is your Ad Hom fallacy ... and ridiculous nonsense about Tulsi being a Russian Hero .. another Blue propaganda narrative that the weak minded will fall for .. .. Trump a Russian Stooge .. Tulsi a Russian Asset .. this is fodder for those who failed logic.

and you did exactly such a thing .. like You love tyrants and dictators -- and so Tulsi is a Russian Puppet.

Now that we have dispensed with the idea that name calling is an argument for something .. or crying out "Tulsi is a hero to Russia" - not a USA Patriot .. givine no substantiation for unsupported claim .. assumped premise fallacy is not an argument ... for anything other than lack of an argument.

Tulsi is a hero to the people .. wanted the tyrant and war criminal Biden to stop arming the 911 terrorist Group Al Qaeda -- and spawn .. the "Islamic State"

 

[F1fan]

I did not say Obama created ISIS .. silly strawman nonsense.


You are the one who misrepresented position .. see above



You accused another poster of loving tyrants and dictators .. as if this has some relevance to Tulsi Gabbard. .. Ad hom fallacy on steroids

Second you claim "Pro Ukraine" .. and you are a Biden supporter .. Ukraine is run by a dictator .. Genocide Joe is tyrant .. war criminal - Holocaust supporter . and so on .. so I suggested you take the stone out of your own eye .. prior to projecting your failings onto others..

and last .. that someone does not support spending treasure on Ukraine .. ..does not make one a Putin Supporter .. this Blue narrative is fallacious nonsense on steroids .. and a Typical Fascist Tactic .. an insidious lie .. propagandized through the propaganda mouthpiece Blue media.

Thats what Tyranny looks like .. u understand ? Right ! Thats what tyranny looks like . do you not recognize the paw prints in the Snow ?

but all that aside .. the primary point here is your Ad Hom fallacy ... and ridiculous nonsense about Tulsi being a Russian Hero .. another Blue propaganda narrative that the weak minded will fall for .. .. Trump a Russian Stooge .. Tulsi a Russian Asset .. this is fodder for those who failed logic.

and you did exactly such a thing .. like You love tyrants and dictators -- and so Tulsi is a Russian Puppet.

Now that we have dispensed with the idea that name calling is an argument for something .. or crying out "Tulsi is a hero to Russia" - not a USA Patriot .. givine no substantiation for unsupported claim .. assumped premise fallacy is not an argument ... for anything other than lack of an argument.

Tulsi is a hero to the people .. wanted the tyrant and war criminal Biden to stop arming the 911 terrorist Group Al Qaeda -- and spawn .. the "Islamic State"

Since you state many falsehoods I can’t take your post seriously.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

What a ridiculous response - trying to tar those who admire a true Patriotic Hero with Putin and Assad.

Whether you're being sarcastic or not, that Putinesque humor is sick at best.

 

[Yerda]

Win-win to Trump is a solution that is satisfactory to and agreed to by both sides .

Is it a win-win if both sides agree because one side gets what they want and the other has no choice?

Isn't it more likely that Trump would prefer a simple win, which would be Russia gets to do what it wants and Ukraine gets to do what it is told?

 

[Sargonski]

Since you state many falsehoods I can’t take your post seriously.

Right -- cry out Liar .. .. without stating a single lie. This is an assumed premise fallacy .. and thus should not be taken seriously.

Are you having trouble dealing with the fact that beloved Biden is far bigger tyrant than Gentle Russian Giant.. Peddling the reverse would be a falsehood .. Right ! heh heh

 

[Sargonski]

Whether you're being sarcastic or not, that Putinesque humor is sick at best.

What part of Patriotic Hero did you not understand ? .. and what does Putin have to do with anything other than personal invective of the most anti patriotic kind .. compliments of Kankles ..

Being "anti-war" does not make one a "Russian Stooge" .. the Blue Cancel Crew peddling the fallacious narrative is pandering to the low education part of the electorate .. not able to catch the false logic.

"Sick Putinesque Humor" I suppose that is one way to put it .. peddled by the Blue Cancel Crew .. where logic and reason won't do...

Tulsi has been right .. and one of the very few with the stones to run against a herd of stampeding bulls. Not the smartest thing to do perhaps .. but no one can question her stones. .. with "Sick Putinesque fallacy" .

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Being "anti-war" does not make one a "Russian Stooge" ...

And being a Putin tool does not make one "anti-war".

 

[F1fan]

Right -- cry out Liar .. .. without stating a single lie. This is an assumed premise fallacy .. and thus should not be taken seriously.

Are you having trouble dealing with the fact that beloved Biden is far bigger tyrant than Gentle Russian Giant.. Peddling the reverse would be a falsehood .. Right ! heh heh

Use truthful statements and then you will have credibility. You are parroting straight out right wing disinformation, so irelevant. You disqualify yourself in debate.