dust1n
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No how many times you say this, it still isn't a sound argument.
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Gay Marriage
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No how many times you say this, it still isn't a sound argument.
dust1n
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dust1n
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Great, you don't value liberty for yourself. Who cares? The fact is, homosexuals are getting society to change their limits. People who aren't bigoted realize the situation, and approach homosexuality in a way that would be more appropriate for 2000 and not 1800. In case you cared, the places that voted to legalize gay marriage... voted to legalize gay marriage. So what's the problem? Society doesn't want pedophiles or bestiality legalized for the most part, so it's not legalized. So, it's settled. Areas of our society have decided to allow it, so they have. DO YOU WANT TO REPEAL THIS LAW, because it doesn't suit you?
It's not even science.
dust1n
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The next method of attack you will receive will be to be labelled 'Troll'.
Obviously anyone who opposes same sex marriage cannot be serious and are only messing around on the internet for fun. It is impossible (as the Liberals believe) that anyone in 2011 can possibly have such outdated views.
Discussing same sex marriage = Bigot
Discussing racial issues = Racist
Discussing gender roles =Sexist
Discussing anything anti Liberal agenda in a constructive manner = Troll
Good luck!
Let me fix that for you.
Repressing same sex marriage = Bigot
Trivializing racial issues = Racist
Assigning your perceived gender roles onto the entire world = Sexist
Discussing anything anti Liberal agenda in a constructive manner = Delusional
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
No, it's called progress.
I can't for the life of me figure out why people worry about what others are doing! About 30 years ago, I saw a 60 Minutes (or was it 20/20?) show about a man who was dying and his life partner wasn't allowed to visit him. The family of the dying man said he had no legal right to see his life partner at all. I thought that was incredibly cruel and decided then and there I would never be that cruel deliberately. And reasons like that is why gays want marriage- they want legal rights to see their dying loved ones, amongst a lot of other things not mentioned. They want the same rights as anyone else has.
But that is their choice. If they [the heterosexual couple]wanted to get married, they could. Imagine if they were told that they couldn't marry even if they wanted to.
waitasec
Veteran Member
if it is a mutual feeling, of course?
are you for real?
i get the feeling someone settled with you :sad:
yes everyone has the right to pursue happiness...
and so do you.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Of course they "can" be changed. I never indicated that they could not be. However, I do not advocate such action, And it is generally accepted in nearly every states in the Union that the Marriageable Age is on or around 18.
What I have repeated over, and over, and over, ad nauseum, is that continually comparing the actions of consensual adults to the sexual abuse of non-consensual children and animals not only reveals an irrational and immature approach to the subject, but also a bigotry reminiscent of the anti-miscegenation attitudes of the 20th Century.
nnmartin
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I see , you must be delusional if you do not support the Liberals.
That is funny because I cannot recall the last time the Liberal party led the nation.
I remember the Republicans , Democrats, Conservatives, and Labour though (of course they are all delusional so they don't count). :areyoucra
dust1n
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I wouldn't call myself a liberal.
What I was saying is, you must be delusional if you think there is a "Liberal Agenda".
Father Heathen
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You honestly think the only difference between a full grown adult and a prepubescent child is some arbitrary number? Nothing to at all to do with their level of psychological and physiological development?
Since the other thread was closed and this is sooo similar, please may I ask a question? Did God create both man and woman? If so, then did he also create us as we are? If so then did he (as has been put he created man for woman and no other) make a mistake? I feel that is a simple question and have asked it all day to no response.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
A "mistake" implies something is wrong. The only mistake is making presumptions regarding the concept of god.
Father Heathen
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Jubilee is trying to say that some random aged picked by the government is the only distinction between an adult and a child.
dust1n
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He said "consenting adult" was meaninglessly defined by the government, like, consent doesn't even matter anymore; marry a 4 year old. I mean, it's my right to do so, since the gays have the right to marry and all.
Exactly, which is why I ask? Everyone can say God created man in his own image, God is perfect and all knowing, God does everything for a reason... need I go on??
But yet.... homosexuality is an abomniation/immoral....
Did God not create us all? If so then there must be a mistake somewhere and I would like to know where, that is all I have asked all day to received responses about beastality and paedophilia.
dust1n
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WARNING: POST MAY CONTAIN UNNATURAL MATERIAL!!!
9660 to 5000 BC
9660 to 5000 BC
- Mesolithic rock art in Sicily depicts phallic male figures in pairs that have been interpreted variously, including as depictions of homosexual intercourse.[1]
- Among the sexual depictions in Neolithic and Bronze Age drawings and figurines from the Mediterranean are "third sex" human figures having female breasts and male genitals or without distinguishing sex characteristics. In Neolithic Italy, female images are found in a domestic context, while images that combine sexual characteristics appear in burials or religious settings; in Neolithic Greece and Cyprus, figures are often dual-sexed or without identifying sexual characteristics.[2]
- The tomb of the Egyptian royal servants Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum is built during the Fifth Dynasty. The two have sometimes been seen as a homosexual couple,[3] and if so are the first same-sex couple to be recorded by name.[4]
- ca. 630 BC – Dorian aristocrats in Crete adopt formal relations between adult aristocrats and adolescent boys; an inscription from Crete is the oldest record of the social institution of paiderasteia among the Greeks[5] (see Cretan pederasty). Marriage between men in Greece was not legally recognized, but men might form life-long relationships originating in paiderasteia ("pederasty," without the pejorative connotations of the English word). These partnerships were not dissimilar to heterosexual marriages except that the older person served as educator or mentor.[6]
- 600 BC – Sappho of Lesbos writes love poetry addressing other women, providing the eventual inspiration for the word lesbian.[7]
- ca. 540–530 BC – Wall paintings from the Etruscan Tomb of the Bulls (ItalianTomba dei Tori), found in 1892 in the Monterozzi necropolis, Tarquinia, depict homosexual intercourse. The tomb is named for the pair of bulls who watch human sex scenes, one between a man and a woman, and the other between two men; these may be apotropaic, or embody aspects of the cycle of regeneration and the afterlife. The three-chamber tomb was inscribed with the name of the deceased for whom it was originally built, Aranth Spurianas or Arath Spuriana, and also depicts Achilles killing the Trojan prince Troilus, along with indications of Apollo cult.[8]
- 385 BC – Plato publishes Symposium in which Phaedrus, Eryixmachus, Aristophanes and other Greek intellectuals argue that love between males is the highest form, while sex with women is lustful and utilitarian.[9] Socrates, however, differs.[10] He demonstrates extreme self-control when seduced by the beautiful Alcibiades.[11]
- 350 BC – Plato publishes Laws in which the Athenian stranger and his companions criticize homosexuality as being lustful and wrong for society because it does not further the species and may lead to irresponsible citizenry.[12]
- 338 BC – The Sacred Band of Thebes, an undefeated elite battalion made up of one hundred and fifty pederastic couples, is destroyed by the forces of Philip II of Macedon who bemoans their loss and praises their honour.[13]
- 326 BC – Military leader Alexander the Great, who was bisexual (as was considered the norm in Ancient Greek culture[citation needed]), completes conquest of most of the then known Western world, launching the Hellenistic Age in which millions of people are converted to a Hellenistic culture that views homosexual relationships positively.
- ca. 90s–80s BC - The Roman consul Quintus Lutatius Catulus was among a circle of poets who made short, light Hellenistic poems fashionable in the late Republic. Both his surviving epigrams address a male as an object of desire, signaling a new homoerotic aesthetic in Roman culture.[16]
[An on and on and on...]
Timeline of LGBT history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Exactly, which is why I ask? Everyone can say God created man in his own image, God is perfect and all knowing, God does everything for a reason... need I go on??
But yet.... homosexuality is an abomniation/immoral....
People are responsible for their own bad behavior (as in pedophilia, incest, etc).
I can't answer your question because I feel it's absurd to compare homosexuality with any of the above (beastiality included).
I don't expect you to answer as I agree whole heartedly with what you responded. I expect the ones who did suggest such drivvel to respond though as it is truely disturbing.
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