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Gay Rights: Is it time to Boycott Firefox?

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Today, users of the dating website OKcupid were asked not to access the website using Mozilla Firefox. OKCupid told users: "Mozilla’s new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples," the message reads. "We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access OkCupid."

I, for one, shall switch to chrome! For Freedom!
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
My instinct is that this is more about free advertising for the website that any real socio-political considerations.

Also, anyone who actively recommends it's users to switch to Internet Explorer has no place running a website. :D
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Today, users of the dating website OKcupid were asked not to access the website using Mozilla Firefox. OKCupid told users: "Mozilla’s new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples," the message reads. "We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access OkCupid."
I, for one, shall switch to chrome! For Freedom!
Meh.....switching would change nothing.
I'll stick with Firefox.
I once tried Chrome. It sucked.
But next week the gadflies would find a reason to boycott them too.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Thankfully, I had already switched from Firefox to Chrome some time back. I think it would be funny to see all these businesses start to lose business because of denying service to homosexuals.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
I don't think continuing to use Firefox amounts to an endorsement of the personal opinions of its executives.
perhaps that true but boycotting certainly says i disagree with him./ this is important. America is in cultural civil war.
 

misanthropic_clown

Active Member
perhaps that true but boycotting certainly says i disagree with him./ this is important. America is in cultural civil war.

True, publicity is almost always a good thing and as a temporary measure a boycott can raise awareness about an issue.

But, from what I read, Mozilla is a pretty progressive company. The only potential "benefit" of this action would be to cause embarrassment to the CEO because of his personal beliefs, and though not necessarily a bad thing this would (I imagine) be far outweighed by the risk to livelihood of Mozilla's employees. In addition, I think competency at your job should be the primary concern in the workplace, and the idea of policing against private beliefs which have nothing to do with the job at hand strikes me as an unappealing one.
 

technomage

Finding my own way
While Eich personally may support things like Prop 8, the Mozilla corporation fully supports marriage equality.
 

nazz

Doubting Thomas
Today, users of the dating website OKcupid were asked not to access the website using Mozilla Firefox. OKCupid told users: "Mozilla’s new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples," the message reads. "We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access OkCupid."

I, for one, shall switch to chrome! For Freedom!

If I were to boycott something based on considerations like these I'd have to boycott everything. Besides Mozilla is non-profit so a boycott won't really impact them that much.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Just for clarification, is this the known extent of the CEO's opposition to equal rights for gay couples:

Eich donated $1,000 in 2008 to the campaign supporting California Proposition 8, which was recorded in a public database with Mozilla's name attached as his employer.[12] This reached public notability in March 2012, being controversial in the tech sphere[13] and the gay press both in the US[14] and internationally,[15] and the Twitter reaction itself achieving press noteworthiness.[16] Controversy over the donation again reached US and international news when he became CEO of Mozilla in 2014 and a number of employees asked him to step down while others called for a boycott of the company.[17][18][19][20][21] In response to speculation about Eich's appointment, Mozilla released a statement on March 29 re-affirming their support for LGBT equality.[22]

I ask because, if the above is the extent of the issue, then i'm not sure that a boycott is necessarily a reasonable thing to do here. If a business was owned by people who opposed equal rights, used their business/brand and/or their social status based on it to promote against equal rights, and so forth, i'd think a boycott is necessary.

On the other hand this is a non-profit organization which Eich only represents a branch of, and the organization as a whole states it's support for LGBT equality. Further the extent of Eich's opposition is fairly limited and personal, rather than relying on his status as an employee for Mozilla. So like i said, if this is all there is to the issue, i don't see a need for a boycott.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Just for clarification, is this the known extent of the CEO's opposition to equal rights for gay couples:



I ask because, if the above is the extent of the issue, then i'm not sure that a boycott is necessarily a reasonable thing to do here. If a business was owned by people who opposed equal rights, used their business/brand and/or their social status based on it to promote against equal rights, and so forth, i'd think a boycott is necessary.

On the other hand this is a non-profit organization which Eich only represents a branch of, and the organization as a whole states it's support for LGBT equality. Further the extent of Eich's opposition is fairly limited and personal, rather than relying on his status as an employee for Mozilla. So like i said, if this is all there is to the issue, i don't see a need for a boycott.
Indeed, the boycott might be seen as harmful to gay rights.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If OKCupid blocked access through Firefox, I find such control to be far more offensive than the CEOs position. It's not like the usage of Firefox contributes to anti-gay movements, such as like some other companies that donate profits. I may not agree with him, but I'd rather disagree with him than try to force him into compliance.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
If I were to boycott something based on considerations like these I'd have to boycott everything. Besides Mozilla is non-profit so a boycott won't really impact them that much.

Same! I'm sticking to Firefox. I've been using it for years and none of the other browsers stack up, to me.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Um, well he isn't CEO, as of today. So, boycott, lifted! Thank goodness we weren't in Montgomery prepared to boycott our only means of transportation for over a year.

By the way, talk about chilling a career opportunity over $3,100 hundred dollars spent on political contributions.
 
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