Gender Apartheid

[Ignatius A]

This was in response to, "Okay, Hamas do not have the manpower or resources to destroy Israel. Do you accept that?"


Israel was not destroyed on October 7th.

Irrelevant. It's the explicitly stated goal hamas to destroy Israel. Until that changes Israel should do all it can to defend itself against a rabid enemy.

 

[Ignatius A]

Evidence for that. You demand evidence from us, so I do the same.

You haven't shown a stitch of evidence.

My evidence is the explicit statement from Hamas that they seem the destruction of Israel.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Irrelevant. It's the explicitly stated goal hamas to destroy Israel. Until that changes Israel should do all it can to defend itself against a rabid enemy.

So you have already answer your own question. Israel should do all it can to defend itself against a rabid enemy.
So no other answer will be accepted by you, so why do you ask us if it can be done differently, if you already have your answer?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You haven't shown a stitch of evidence.

My evidence is the explicit statement from Hamas that they seem the destruction of Israel.

Now prove that they can destroy Israel.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes justified not ok. Hamas committed war crimes in pursuit of their goal to destroy israel. Unless Israel responds in kind hamas will destroy Israel. You would prefer Israel sit down and shut up and accept destruction?

Here it is again. You support Israel committing genocide because someone else did it too.

Israel is perfectly capable of protecting itself without committing war crimes.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Irrelevant. It's the explicitly stated goal hamas to destroy Israel. Until that changes Israel should do all it can to defend itself against a rabid enemy.

It's entirely relevant to the point under discussion.

Just because they want to, doesn't mean they can.
I want to end world hunger. Doesn't mean I can.

 

[Ignatius A]

So you have already answer your own question. Israel should do all it can to defend itself against a rabid enemy.
So no other answer will be accepted by you, so why do you ask us if it can be done differently, if you already have your answer?

Because you're the one complaining about how mean Israel. You claim you want Israel to be able to defend itself but not commit war crimes while doing so. Great! Explain who they do they do that against a rabid enemy that wants to destroy them. It's your criteria so explain how you would like Israel to respond.

 

[Ignatius A]

Here it is again. You support Israel committing genocide because someone else did it too.

Israel is perfectly capable of protecting itself without committing war crimes.

No but nuts justified

Ok. Explain how Israel protects itself with committing war crimes. Be very specific.

 

[icehorse]

It is too simple. Because sometimes people have to be treated differently, because they are different. That is the point.

Can you give an example of a physically and mentally healthy individual for whom the Golden Rule would not work?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Because you're the one complaining about how mean Israel. You claim you want Israel to be able to defend itself but not commit war crimes while doing so. Great! Explain who they do they do that against a rabid enemy that wants to destroy them. It's your criteria so explain how you would like Israel to respond.

I can't. You are right Hamas will destroy Israel no matter what!!! Israel can't defend itself in any way possible, as saying that they want to destroy Israel makes it a fact that it will happen. You are so right!!!
You won!!! Words are magical and will always happen!!! There is no way I can't argue against that.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Can you give an example of a physically and mentally healthy individual for whom the Golden Rule would not work?

Well, since I am not such a human, you have just proved my point, because you only include some humans and not all humans.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No but nuts justified

Ok. Explain how Israel protects itself with committing war crimes. Be very specific.

It's become apparent that you don't understand the meaning of that word.

I suggest investing in a dictionary.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You haven't shown a stitch of evidence.

My evidence is the explicit statement from Hamas that they seem the destruction of Israel.

You're bickering over rhetorical fantasy meanwhile over 70% of Gaza has been destroyed. It's been turned into a moonscape.
For example:

Gaza City footage shows scale of destruction caused by Israeli bombardments – video

Footage recorded on 17 August by a UN official inside Gaza City shows whole neighbourhoods razed, with buildings reduced to piles of rubble and tangled steel

www.theguardian.com

 

[icehorse]

Well, since I am not such a human, you have just proved my point, because you only include some humans and not all humans.

Well in general laws and policies are designed for healthy individuals. We do not - for example - allow murder, even if murder feels fine for a few individuals.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well in general laws and policies are designed for healthy individuals. We do not - for example - allow murder, even if murder feels fine for a few individuals.

So since I am not mentally and physically healthy I am no different than a murderer? Is that your argument?

 

[icehorse]

So since I am not mentally and physically healthy I am no different than a murderer? Is that your argument?

 

[Ignatius A]

It's become apparent that you don't understand the meaning of that word.

I suggest investing in a dictionary.

You can drone on all you like, people use "ok" all the time as an acknowledgement and not as approval or agreement. You can't seem to accept that.

Now once hamas no longer wants to destroy Israel then Israel won't be justified in responding in kind to their rabid enemy

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

So what is your argument in regards to people like me, who are not normal nor dangerous? How do we fit into the Golden Rule, if we can't be treated like normal people?

 

[Ignatius A]

Now prove that they can destroy Israel.

Sure but before I do copy and paste where I said they could. I'll wait here.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Sure but before I do copy and paste where I said they could. I'll wait here.

Okay, so it is not a given that Hamas can destroy Israel. Agree?