Gender reassignment/affirming surgery

[icehorse]

Why would there be a police record of misgendering someone?

Losing or keeping one's job is dependent upon the agreed terms of employment.

The UK's "hate speech" laws are routinely being used to rat people out for misgendering (among other things), via a thing called a "non crime hate incident" (NCHI). Again, over 200,000 of these "incidents" have been recorded in the UK.

And employers have access to these police records and can use them to deny employment or take action against employees who have been charged with a NCHI.

As to why there would be a police record? You tell me... cancel culture gone crazy?

 

[Ignatius A]

The UK's "hate speech" laws are routinely being used to rat people out for misgendering (among other things), via a thing called a "non crime hate incident" (NCHI). Again, over 200,000 of these "incidents" have been recorded in the UK.

And employers have access to these police records and can use them to deny employment or take action against employees who have been charged with a NCHI.

As to why there would be a police record? You tell me.

Why? Because it's all about destroying people who won't got into with the narrative.

 

[The Hammer]

Oh goodness gracious aren't you people tired of the examine the genitalia nonsense? I guess you have nothing else.

Not really, because I don't need to examine someone's genitals or looks to go by the pronouns they ask to have used in conversation. It's just common sense and common decency.

 

[Ignatius A]

Not really, because I don't need to examine someone's genitals or looks to go by the pronouns they ask to have used in conversation. It's just common sense and common decency.

There is no need to look at genitalia to determine someone's gender. That argument is used by low intelligence people.

 

[The Hammer]

There is no need to look at genitalia to determine someone's gender. That argument is used by low intelligence people.

You mentioned the "examine the genitalia nonsense", if you don't like my answer to your line of thought, try a new line.

Oh goodness gracious aren't you people tired of the examine the genitalia nonsense?

 

[The Hammer]

There is no need to look at genitalia to determine someone's gender.

This also proved my point. Thank you.

 

[Ignatius A]

You mentioned the "examine the genitalia nonsense", if you don't like my answer to your line of thought, try a new line.

No need to because it's buffoonery to think you need to see genitalia to determine gender. It's a leftist talking point and with nothing useful add you repeat the same silly argument.

 

[The Hammer]

No need to because it's buffoonery to think you need to see genitalia to determine gender. It's a leftist talking point and with nothing useful add you repeat the same silly argument.

Then maybe choose your words better? People might start thinking your a silly leftist.

But yeah, common decency goes much further. Call people whatever pronouns they prefer. It doesn't change the interaction other than now I'm polite. If someone wants to rage because I misgendered them, I apologize and use their preferences. It's really really simple. Not sure what all the hullabaloo is about.

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[Ignatius A]

Then maybe choose your words better? People might start thinking your a silly leftist.

But yeah, common decency goes much further. Call people whatever pronouns they prefer. It doesn't change the interaction other than now I'm polite. If someone wants to rage because I misgendered them, I apologize and use their preferences. It's really really simple. Not sure what all the hullabaloo is about.

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Try a better argument

So you would call a woman "he" if she asked you to because it's polite and courteous. Fine. Do you believe that person actually is a "he"? Does this politeness and courtesy extend to things other than pronouns?

 

[Ignatius A]

Then maybe choose your words better? People might start thinking your a silly leftist.

But yeah, common decency goes much further. Call people whatever pronouns they prefer. It doesn't change the interaction other than now I'm polite. If someone wants to rage because I misgendered them, I apologize and use their preferences. It's really really simple. Not sure what all the hullabaloo is about.

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Try a better argument

So you would call a woman "he" if she asked you to because it's polite and courteous. Fine. Do you believe that person actually is a "he"? Does this politeness and courtesy extend to things other than pronouns?

 

[The Hammer]

So you would call a woman "he" if she asked you to because it's polite and courteous.

Correct

Fine.

Acceptance is step one good for you.

Do you believe that person actually is a "he"?

What I think doesn't matter in this interaction.

Does this politeness and courtesy extend to things other than pronouns

Most days. But depends on which slippery slope argument comes up next from you.

 

[McBell]

So you would call a woman "he" if she asked you to because it's polite and courteous.

yes.

Fine.

Thank you for you approval...

Do you believe that person actually is a "he"?

Does it really matter?

Does this politeness and courtesy extend to things other than pronouns?

like what?

 

[Ignatius A]

Correct

Acceptance is step one good for you.

What I think doesn't matter in this interaction.

Most days. But depends on which slippery slope argument comes up next from you.

Good..

I've said 100 times I'll call you kumquat if that's what you want. Why don't people pay attention? Never mind I know why

You can't think beyond just this interaction? You cant say if you think women who want to be called "he" are or are not actually men?

Why would that matter if the point of this is to be polite and courteous?

 

[The Hammer]

You can't think beyond just this interaction? You cant say if you think women who want to be called "he" are or are not actually men?

Like I said my thoughts on how I think they feel are not relevant. Seriously. Why would whether or not I actually think this person is what they say they are be relevant?

It's not relevant to any sort of public social interaction.

 

[Ignatius A]

yes.


Thank you for you approval...


Does it really matter?


like what?

Ok

My "fine" was acknowledgment not approval.

Nothing really matters apparently but being polite and courteous. I just wonder what people believe in this matter. It's amazing how often people dodge that question.

Oh....does it really matter? Politeness and courtesy are the point, correct.

 

[The Hammer]

I've said 100 times I'll call you kumquat if that's what you want. Why don't people pay attention? Never mind I know why

Because I have no need to read all 17 pages of this thread.

Don't want people to think you care about these things. Try... Not actually caring.

 

[The Hammer]

It's amazing how often people dodge that question.

It's not dodging to acknowledge that I have no ability to know what is going on in someone else's head and body.

The fact that you seem to think you know otherwise what people think and are internally feeling/gender-wise is...

Frankly concerning.

 

[Ignatius A]

Like I said my thoughts on how I think they feel are not relevant. Seriously. Why would whether or not I actually think this person is what they say they are be relevant?

It's not relevant to any sort of public social interaction.

I didn't ask you how you think they feel. I asked you if think a woman who wants to be called "he", which you would politely and courteously do, is actually a man.

 

[Ignatius A]

It's not dodging to acknowledge that I have no ability to know what is going on in someone else's head and body.

The fact that you seem to think you know otherwise what people think and are internally feeling/gender-wise is...

Frankly concerning.

Either you believe that a woman who want to be called "he" is actually a man or you dont. Do you believe that person is actually a man? "Yes" or "No". It's a simple question.

 

[The Hammer]

I didn't ask you how you think they feel. I asked you if think a woman who wants to be called "he", which you would politely and courteously do, is actually a man.

What they are is what they say. I don't live their life.

I can only know what someone says.
Anything else I comment on is merely guesswork. I don't guess with people.

Why don't people seem to understand that?