Gender role reversal

[Draka]

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Since the vast amount of jobs being lost in this economy are those held by men it appears that classic roles are being changed up.

Do you feel that this is a good thing or bad thing? Should it make a difference if the woman is the main breadwinner in the home and the man the homemaker or in a job usually held by women? Do you think this is an advancement out of a bad situation or a setback all around?

 

[3.14]

psycological studies say that its fing up our rolesysteem and killing our basis of attraction
but i see it as a way for me to sit on my lasy bum and do nothing while i send my wife of to work

 

[JMorris]

psycological studies say that its fing up our rolesysteem and killing our basis of attraction
but i see it as a way for me to sit on my lasy bum and do nothing while i send my wife of to work

indeed

 

[Kilgore Trout]

psycological studies say that its fing up our rolesysteem and killing our basis of attraction
but i see it as a way for me to sit on my lasy bum and do nothing while i send my wife of to work

C'mon, you'd at least have to have a hot meal waiting when she got home, along with keeping yourself pretty for her pleasure.

 

[Quagmire]

I think it would be interesting to see if, over the long haul, we wind up moving towards a more matriarchal society.

I'll bet it'll be a pretty messy transition for a while though; in other places where gender roles were suddenly reversed, due to sudden political or economic upheaval, alcoholism and spousal abuse among men increased pretty markedly.

 

[Nanda]

in other places where gender roles were suddenly reversed, due to sudden political or economic upheaval, alcoholism and spousal abuse among men increased pretty markedly.

Pff. Insecure little baby men. Get over it!







No, but seriously, get over it.

 

[Ringer]

I'm not sure if it would lead to this but I don't think it a good thing that the culture in America seems to wanna try to feminize men. The two have very important roles and are equal with each other but that doesn't mean that they have to be like each other.

 

[JMorris]

Pff. Insecure little baby men. Get over it!







No, but seriously, get over it.

it seems oh-so-simple when its put that way

 

[Nanda]

I'm not sure if it would lead to this but I don't think it a good thing that the culture in America seems to wanna try to feminize men. The two have very important roles and are equal with each other but that doesn't mean that they have to be like each other.

I don't think it's a good idea to equate being the bread winner to being inherently "masculine" or staying at home to being inherently "feminine."

 

[3.14]

and yet psycological studies confirm thats the best approach

 

[Quagmire]

Pff. Insecure little baby men. Get over it!







No, but seriously, get over it.

Don't look at me; if some woman wanted to go to work everyday so I could kick back in my pajamas and hang out in RF all day, I'd let her beat me up.

 

[Buttons*]

"I want a man with a mind like a diamond
I want a man who knows whats best
I want a man with shoes that cut
And eyes that burn like cigarettes
I want a man with the right allocation
Whos fast, and thorough, and sharp as a tack
He's playing with his jewelry, he's putting up his hair
He's touring the facility and picking up slack
I want a man with a short skirt,
And a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong jacket"

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On a more serious note, I don't think I'd appreciate it if my man just stayed around the house and did nothing while I went to work. If he actually did all the household chores and whatnot, cooked me a nice dinner every night, and took care of the hypothetical kids or pets, I wouldn't mind being the one working hard every day for the bread. But to be perfectly honest, I don't see my loving dear man doing any of that if I became the sole bread winner. I think that's too much responsibility for me to handle. I'm going to be a female University Professor.... so I wouldn't have enough bread to go around truthfully.

I would like the efforts to be shared, and I wouldn't appreciate it very much if I became the only person earning money. I wouldn't like it if my friends got jobs and their boyfriends did nothing but spend their money. I would call him a loser. Maybe I'm sexist, but I don't think it would be a good or nice change. Masculinity IS important, and it's good to have balance, not one being better off than the other.

 

[Draka]

"I want a man with a mind like a diamond
I want a man who knows whats best
I want a man with shoes that cut
And eyes that burn like cigarettes
I want a man with the right allocation
Whos fast, and thorough, and sharp as a tack
He's playing with his jewelry, he's putting up his hair
He's touring the facility and picking up slack
I want a man with a short skirt,
And a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong jacket"

Your daily dose of Cake with renditions by yours truly

On a more serious note, I don't think I'd appreciate it if my man just stayed around the house and did nothing while I went to work. If he actually did all the household chores and whatnot, cooked me a nice dinner every night, and took care of the hypothetical kids or pets, I wouldn't mind being the one working hard every day for the bread. But to be perfectly honest, I don't see my loving dear man doing any of that if I became the sole bread winner. I think that's too much responsibility for me to handle. I'm going to be a female University Professor.... so I wouldn't have enough bread to go around truthfully.

I would like the efforts to be shared, and I wouldn't appreciate it very much if I became the only person earning money. I wouldn't like it if my friends got jobs and their boyfriends did nothing but spend their money. I would call him a loser. Maybe I'm sexist, but I don't think it would be a good or nice change. Masculinity IS important, and it's good to have balance, not one being better off than the other.

How do you feel about women who stay home and raise the kids and clean the house and cook the meals and take care of grocery shopping and paying the bills while the man goes to work all day? Why would it be any different if the roles were reversed?

I've lived in both situations. I've been the sole bread-winner and my ex-husband was the homemaker and now I'm the homemaker and my boyfriend is the bread-winner in our home. I really don't see the difference.

 

[Buttons*]

How do you feel about women who stay home and raise the kids and clean the house and cook the meals and take care of grocery shopping and paying the bills while the man goes to work all day? Why would it be any different if the roles were reversed?

I've lived in both situations. I've been the sole bread-winner and my ex-husband was the homemaker and now I'm the homemaker and my boyfriend is the bread-winner in our home. I really don't see the difference.

Women in general or my personal feelings on my personal situations? Because honestly, if you don't notice a difference, that's cool. But you know, there's a reason that the one guy is your ex. I don't know what that reason is, so I could be talking out my ***, but if you were the only one earning money, and you two eventually broke up.... wouldn't that mean that there WERE problems in that scenario? Personally I think it's wrong to forcefully take men's jobs away from them. Just as I feel it would be wrong to forcefully take jobs away from women. That's not fair.

And if you want my opinion, I think there would be a different dynamic in my home if that were the case. I wouldn't want to be the sole bread winner - but I'd be open to us both having jobs. I'd probably still feel uncomfortable if my significant other was the only one making money. But if there were things to do around the house and one of us was unemployed, it'd be the other person's responsibility to take care of the majority of the house work. Just as I do now while I'm studying at Uni.

I think if anyone of any gender wants to stay home and actually DO the work for the home, I'm cool with it. If anyone wants to work they should be able to work. But I'm not ok with any gender having the upper hand in the work force because it creates imbalance. Yes, that means if women ran everything it would be imbalanced and wrong, in my opinion.

 

[Nanda]

and yet psycological studies confirm thats the best approach

Maybe because men are raised from day one to think that this is how they're "supposed" to be? Yes, I'd imagine that if you're force-fed a ideology for your entire life, then forced to go against it for whatever reason, there would be some psychological consequences.

 

[Buttons*]

Maybe because men are raised from day one to think that this is how they're "supposed" to be? Yes, I'd imagine that if you're force-fed a ideology for your entire life, then forced to go against it for whatever reason, there would be some psychological consequences.

Is there something wrong with raising your kids to be ambitious? Or for a man to want to provide for himself and his family? ChrisP takes his job very seriously, and he wants to work because it gives him a bit of self worth. That's not just gender talk, that's self respect.

 

[Nanda]

Is there something wrong with raising your kids to be ambitious? Or for a man to want to provide for himself and his family? ChrisP takes his job very seriously, and he wants to work because it gives him a bit of self worth. That's not just gender talk, that's self respect.

There's nothing wrong with teaching your kids to be ambitious. There is something wrong with expecting your sons to be, but not your daughters. There is something wrong with teaching your sons that to be the "at home" parent is something to be ashamed of. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Ringer]

I don't think it's a good idea to equate being the bread winner to being inherently "masculine" or staying at home to being inherently "feminine."

I wouldn't go as far as to say that but I also don't think you'll find many men being satisfied staying at home while the wife is off working to provide for the family.

 

[Nanda]

I wouldn't go as far as to say that but I also don't think you'll find many men being satisfied staying at home while the wife is off working to provide for the family.

I don't doubt it. The real question is, "Why?"

 

[Draka]

Women in general or my personal feelings on my personal situations? Because honestly, if you don't notice a difference, that's cool. But you know, there's a reason that the one guy is your ex. I don't know what that reason is, so I could be talking out my ***, but if you were the only one earning money, and you two eventually broke up.... wouldn't that mean that there WERE problems in that scenario? Personally I think it's wrong to forcefully take men's jobs away from them. Just as I feel it would be wrong to forcefully take jobs away from women. That's not fair.

Just to be clear, there weren't problems with that scenario. The reason he is my ex has nothing to do with who worked and who stayed home.

And if you want my opinion, I think there would be a different dynamic in my home if that were the case. I wouldn't want to be the sole bread winner - but I'd be open to us both having jobs. I'd probably still feel uncomfortable if my significant other was the only one making money. But if there were things to do around the house and one of us was unemployed, it'd be the other person's responsibility to take care of the majority of the house work. Just as I do now while I'm studying at Uni.

I think if anyone of any gender wants to stay home and actually DO the work for the home, I'm cool with it. If anyone wants to work they should be able to work. But I'm not ok with any gender having the upper hand in the work force because it creates imbalance. Yes, that means if women ran everything it would be imbalanced and wrong, in my opinion.

You do realize that men have always had the "upperhand" in the work force in our society right? That there have never been as many women in the workforce as men even though we outnumber men? That, we even still make less than men on the whole for the same type of work? The shift towards women being more of a driving force in the workplace can only help to equal things out. and perhaps the shift towards more men having to work in jobs usually classified as "women's" jobs and/or staying home raising children might just make more men appreciate the work women do and realize that certain jobs aren't just for men and aren't just for women and they might work harder to ensure more equality in the workplace and home as well.