Gender

[Jimmy]

Just whooped yer own self. Fair play.

not really though. im still choosing my way

 

[Wildswanderer]

Do they? Or were they ac/dc all along?

That doesn't even make sense. You can't claim someone is born gay when they switch back and forth.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Mostly likely they were just bisexual all along.

Most likely anyone can decide to be anything on any given day because we have Free will.

 

[Father Heathen]

Most likely anyone can decide to be anything on any given day because we have Free will.

Do you arbitrarily choose what food, music, etc. you like and dislike? I think not.

 

[ChristineM]

That doesn't even make sense. You can't claim someone is born gay when they switch back and forth.

So what's the issue with bisexuality?

 

[Yerda]

Most likely anyone can decide to be anything on any given day because we have Free will.

Can you choose to think about this for ten minutes?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Do you arbitrarily choose what food, music, etc. you like and dislike? I think not.

Yes. You can program yourself to like or dislike.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Can you choose to think about this for ten minutes?

Sure, why not?

 

[Father Heathen]

Yes. You can program yourself to like or dislike.

So why did you program yourself to dislike the foods that you do? Why would you do that?

 

[Wildswanderer]

So why did you program yourself to dislike the foods that you do? Why would you do that?

I didn't say that I did in every case... But you certainly can.
For example, I have managed to program myself not to like mountain dew anymore.
Generally when you eat something that's bad for you, especially something that gives you a sugar high or caffeine high, your body becomes more programmed to accept it, and crave it.
If you reject it, and teach your brain, eventually you will no longer have the cravings.

 

[Father Heathen]

I didn't say that I did in every case... But you certainly can.
For example, I have managed to program myself not to like mountain dew anymore.
Generally when you eat something that's bad for you, especially something that gives you a sugar high or caffeine high, your body becomes more programmed to accept it, and crave it.
If you reject it, and teach your brain, eventually you will no longer have the cravings.

You're talking about chemical dependency.

 

[Left Coast]

If it's variable, then it can't be genetic. People can and do change from " gay" to "straight" and vice versa.

No, they don't. Some people experiment, are bisexual, or just lie.

If it's something you're born with, that would not happen.

No, that doesn't follow logically. Many things about people change that they are born with.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You're talking about chemical dependency.

The same applies to everything in life. People have programmed themselves to live like monks, needing very little and being happy with it. Others program themselves to be dependent on chemicals and porn and alcohol.
The brain can be conditioned to accept some pretty extreme beliefs, feelings, and obsessions, and also can be programmed to reject the same.

 

[Wildswanderer]

No, they don't. Some people experiment, are bisexual, or just lie.

Now people are obviously lying because you won't accept the truth.
Brilliant.

 

[Left Coast]

Now people are obviously lying because you won't accept the truth.
Brilliant.

Lol no, people are lying because we have admitted en masse to lying about our sexual orientation to stay in the closet. Are we lying about lying? Lmao. Get outta here.

 

[Father Heathen]

The same applies to everything in life. People have programmed themselves to live like monks, needing very little and being happy with it. Others program themselves to be dependent on chemicals and porn and alcohol.
The brain can be conditioned to accept some pretty extreme beliefs, feelings, and obsessions, and also can be programmed to reject the same.

Again, why did you program yourself to like/dislike certain foods, music, etc? Nobody enjoys or desires anything until after rigorous conditioning? How long did it take for you to program yourself to love your family?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Again, why did you program yourself to like/dislike certain foods, music, etc?

Lots of reasons. It's probably impossible to understand everyone's motivations for their programming.

 

[Father Heathen]

Lots of reasons. It's probably impossible to understand everyone's motivations for their programming.

That's more of a dodge than an actual answer. It seems like you're scraping something together out of desperation because you can't accept that perhaps ancient goat herders may have been wrong about a few things.

 

[Watchmen]

That's more of a dodge than an actual answer. It seems like you're scraping something together out of desperation because you can't accept that perhaps ancient goat herders may have been wrong about a few things.

How dare you. Some of them were fishermen.

 

[Left Coast]

That's more of a dodge than an actual answer. It seems like you're scraping something together out of desperation because you can't accept that perhaps ancient goat herders may have been wrong about a few things.

And of course it ignores the fact that attempts to intentionally change people's sexual orientation have been abject failures in the research.