Genesis 2

[outhouse]

Your ways are outlawed.

Are you going to terrorize the court system to, for protecting innocent children from your views?

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
NO! That belief will not die out. False education and false knowledge are scheduled to be replaced by Truth and Righteousness.

You have no clue, you cannot even comprehend the quote feature.

Your ways are over. Your ways are outlawed to PROTECT little children.

New generations are not taught the false teachings you only know.

MY WAYS are taught world wide as higher education and common knowledge.

Yes, Paul wrote to 2Tim.4:2-4, "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

HIS(GOD'S) WAYS are what counts.

 

[outhouse]

Your ways are outlawed.

Are you going to terrorize the court system to, for protecting innocent children from your views?

 

[sincerly]

Your ways are outlawed.

Are you going to terrorize the court system to, for protecting innocent children from your views?

As long as one still has freedom to choose, one can educate one's children in "home schools" and "Church sponsored schools".

The only terrorizing has been from those with your point of view. And the using of the courts to enforce that view.

 

[outhouse]

As long as one still has freedom to choose, one can educate one's children in "home schools" and "Church sponsored schools".

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Yes anyone can ruin their childrens education, making them worthless in the global job market.

Your ways are over. Your ways are outlawed to PROTECT little children.

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by outhouse View Post
You have no clue, you cannot even comprehend the quote feature.
Your ways are over. Your ways are outlawed to PROTECT little children.
New generations are not taught the false teachings you only know.
MY WAYS are taught world wide as higher education and common knowledge.

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
As long as one still has freedom to choose, one can educate one's children in "home schools" and "Church sponsored schools".

Yes anyone can ruin their childrens education, making them worthless in the global job market.

Your ways are over. Your ways are outlawed to PROTECT little children.

Outhouse, What was "outlawed" was the teaching of one belief in GOD/god over another---and that to be the belief of the land/USA. But what is a more detriment is to enforce Atheism---which has as its foundation survival of the fittest--by any means.
It is Atheism which is the terror of education and knowledge--and that of the Creator GOD.
Children can be just as proficient in the use of the language/mathematics/occupational skills/history and social studies/etc. the rest of the educational curriculum in a private setting as in a public institution.
You deceive yourself by thinking that GOD has to be eliminated or one is ignorant.

The only terrorizing has been from those with your point of view. And the using of the courts to enforce that view.

 

[outhouse]

Your ways are outlawed.

Are you going to terrorize the court system to, for protecting innocent children from your views?

 

[outhouse]

You deceive yourself by thinking that GOD has to be eliminated or one is ignorant.


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Lets get this straight.

Your so unbelievably ignorant, not only can you not figure out how to use the quote feature, you cannot comprehend grade school english.


I have never stated god has to be removed. Just not teaching the mythology of creation in place of credible science.


Only your fundamentalist interpretation is going the way of the dinosaurs, extinct. Outlawed to not poison childrens educations.

 

[sincerly]

Lets get this straight.
I have never stated god has to be removed. Just not teaching the mythology of creation in place of credible science.

And that is not eliminating GOD? from the informational knowledge available to the students?
It is forced recognition of the myth of evolution of all things from a common primordial pool.

 

[outhouse]

And that is not eliminating GOD?

No it is only eliminating your primitive interpretation.

from the informational knowledge available to the students?

What the heck is that??

Informational knowledge??


Dont you mean credible education from major universities?

It is forced recognition of the myth of evolution

This is nothing but stubborn intellectual dishonesty, as you have been shown the facts regarding evolution.

Stop your ignorance right now. It is not myth.


Myth is what you believe, and that is why it is not taught and OUTLAWED in science classes

 

[Sonofason]

I suppose you mean that the word day can also refer to age and it can be interpreted as such and that not the actual word day also means age.

So I guess your argument here is that it is possible that when the word day was used it was talking about an age, and not a day. So to you it would fit well with current scientific consensus?

The word day has several meanings. It can mean a 24 hour time period, it can mean an age, and it can mean a time of light. It is my belief that in genesis 1 the word day implies a time of light. Each day (time of light) wherein God was present and creating had a morning (beginning) and an evening (latter part or ending).

 

[Thief]

The word day has several meanings. It can mean a 24 hour time period, it can mean an age, and it can mean a time of light. It is my belief that in genesis 1 the word day implies a time of light. Each day (time of light) wherein God was present and creating had a morning (beginning) and an evening (latter part or ending).

How about a period of activity followed by a period of hesitation?
(as we humans do because of daylight and night...not that such limits apply to God)

 

[Sonofason]

"In the day that you eat of it you shall surely die"

"Day" here refers to the day in which the fruit is eaten. IOW, a specific day. To say it means "In the age that you eat of it you shall surely die" would imply eating of the tree over an indefinite period of time or at least a time period in the far future. This is supposedly a brand new world; there are not yet any "ages".

Actually, I have been looking over some definitions of the word "die". And I can't say for sure whether anyone can clearly interpret this word as it was intended by the author who wrote it.

To die can of course mean that "life" leaves the body. But dying takes time.
It's like a plant taken up from it's roots in the soil. Surely, the day a plant is uprooted it "shall surely die". It is not necessarily completely dead on that day, with no life in it whatsoever, but if it is not replanted into the soil and tended to, it shall surely die. In a sense, it is without hope.

But to die can also mean to languish, to be or live in a state of depression or decreasing vitality, to become dispirited, to suffer neglect.

Certainly, once Adam realized what he had done, he languished over it, and I suppose he did so for the rest of his life.

Thus, I am not so quick to jump to conclusions with regard to this passage, nor any other biblical passage for that matter. Consider everything, being reasonable. Understand that the author meant what he said, and try not to assume that he's just a stupid goat herder, for I see no reason to believe that ancient man was by any means more inferior than todays man.

 

[Sonofason]

How about a period of activity followed by a period of hesitation?
(as we humans do because of daylight and night...not that such limits apply to God)

I personally see no problem with defining the word day as such. What is most difficult is trying to decipher the author's intent, which is crucial to our understanding.

If it doesn't fit, we can discard it. If it might fit, we can't discard it.

 

[Sonofason]

I don't think "God" tempted anyone. I am talking about a creator deity in a mythological tale. THAT character most certainly DID tempt Adam and Eve by placing the tree in the Garden (or at least situating the Garden to include the tree).

Thus, if you leave your car keys in the ignition on the side of the road, you have tempted me to steal it, and if I do steal it, then you are to blame, because it was you who tempted me. By such reasoning, we can justify all indecent acts.

OH sorry I raped your daughter, she was just so hot I had to do it. You shouldn't have let her dress so scantily. It's your fault, not mine.

 

[Sonofason]

You are simply engaging in hermeneutic gymnastics. If I warn you that the day you do something you will die I am not talking about some "age" .

Perhaps it is not our understanding of the word day that is flawed, but our understanding of the word "die" that should be called into question here.

 

[outhouse]

Could you use a dictionary and look up the word COMPREHENSION??




The educated world follows this. It is taught in every major university around the world as higher learning and education.

Young Earth creationism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Young Earth Creationism is contradicted by scientific evidence from numerous scientific disciplines that shows the age of the universe is 13.798±0.037 billion years, the formation of the Earth was 4.5 billion years ago, and life first appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago.[8][9][10][11]

Young Earth Creationism directly contradicts the scientific consensus of the scientific community.

"99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution

Genesis creation narrative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity.

MYTH

 

[Sonofason]

Could you use a dictionary and look up the word COMPREHENSION??




The educated world follows this. It is taught in every major university around the world as higher learning and education.

Young Earth creationism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Young Earth Creationism is contradicted by scientific evidence from numerous scientific disciplines that shows the age of the universe is 13.798±0.037 billion years, the formation of the Earth was 4.5 billion years ago, and life first appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago.[8][9][10][11]

Young Earth Creationism directly contradicts the scientific consensus of the scientific community.

"99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution

Genesis creation narrative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity.

MYTH

This is a pointless post. In no way is there any scientific evidence showing that the Bible Creation story is untrue.

You trying to suggest that the Bible teaches a young earth is false. The age of the universe is never mentioned in the Bible, not once.

So what is your point? That is if you can comprehend mine.

 

[outhouse]

To bad, your view is outlawed to protect our childrens future.

This below is taught worldwide as higher education and knowledge


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.

 

[Thief]

I don't think "God" tempted anyone. I am talking about a creator deity in a mythological tale. THAT character most certainly DID tempt Adam and Eve by placing the tree in the Garden (or at least situating the Garden to include the tree).

Many people see the garden event as a test......I might agree.

The body and spirit of Man had been altered.
The 'test' was to be sure the alteration had taken hold.

We ARE that creature wanting to know....even as death is a pending result.

I believe that quality is needed to survive the last breath.