Lobby for exemptions for rape victims and mentally disabled then.
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Georgia governor signs controversial "heartbeat" abortion bill
- Thread starter Epic Beard Man
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Lobby for exemptions for rape victims and mentally disabled then.
Shad
Veteran Member
Avoid sex. Problem solved.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Abstinence; a great ploy for randy teenagers.
I'm surprised they don't suggest anal sex or blow jobs.
Shad
Veteran Member
You know adults have sex too right?
I am not against education but there is a point in which I expect even teenagers can grasp basic concepts such as action and consequence. If they can not that is the problem of their parents and perhaps the gene pool
Altfish
Veteran Member
Abstinence does not work
Shad
Veteran Member
Works for plenty of people with zero issues. You are avoiding my point about teenagers being taught concepts such as action and consequence, and parenting. If a parent does not trust the judgement of their child do not let them off the apron strings
Bingo!
As long as the governor of Georgia only supports forcing Georgians to go to Florida or Alabama or somewhere, but won't support sex ed and Planned Parenthood and such evidence based methods of reducing elective abortion, he's just a politician grandstanding.
He likes abortion. He likes having a hot button issue he can use to raise funds and get votes.
He likes abortion. It works for him.
Tom
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I’m not a Georgian.
Well any Georgians that dislike it can.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Can’t, not in the south, these people among the Bible belt are leaders of premarital sex
Ellen Brown
Well-Known Member
I'm personally against abortion, especially after 12 weeks. I'll never be faced with the decision.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
That or the nearest over the state border abortion doctors will get a lot more clients.
What’s so special about a heartbeat, anyway?
Worms have several. Brain dead people have heartbeats.
Why should that even be a reason to deny an abortion? Is this a medically agreed upon thing?
Worms have several. Brain dead people have heartbeats.
Why should that even be a reason to deny an abortion? Is this a medically agreed upon thing?
Do you think enough anti-feticide Georgians will care enough to support evidence based methods to reduce elective abortions?
Or are they just going to cheer on their political team?
That's what this looks like to me. Republicans lying about what they're getting up to. They want abortion. So they have something to lie about to get money and power.
Tom
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
That is the question, isn't it? What does 'person' mean? May pro-choice advocates claim that the current definition of 'person' (which doesn't include humans still in the womb) is set in stone, and is the go-to determiner of whether abortion is just dandy.
Yet the term 'person' isn't a scientific or medical fact. It's an assigned value, given to a human (or something else, like a corporation) by the legal system. It changes according to culture. Being a 'person' means that one has the rights of a person. But how is 'personhood' determined?
The thing most important about this bill is that it assigns 'personhood' to unborn humans, at least after the heart starts beating. Once a fetus is assigned personhood, then we have to treat it as if it WERE a person...and all the laws regarding 'self defense,' etc., also come into play.
This protects women who have health issues, and perhaps even rape victims (though I'm not sure how this would help them). It does, certainly protect the right of women who must abort to save their own lives, and it certainly allows abortion in the cases where the fetus is utterly unable to live outside the womb. What it does not do is allow a woman who had consensual sex, knowing that sex produces babies, to kill another human because she went 'oops...' and changed her mind.
I'm pro-choice. Really. It's just that as soon as another human life enters into the picture, the choices are pretty much all made.
Birth control. Use it.
Real democracy is wonderful in that way.
The war is fought over who has the best ideas.
Dems must not have that great many ideas lately.
I'm not just pro-choice....I'm pro-abortion.
But I see the utility of political compromise
on how late abortions can occur.
Which is why I like to use the word “individual”.
FragrantGrace
If winning isn't everything why do they keep score
Red Herring.