"Giada, the inner beauty thing is just nonsense"

[Drolefille]

Oh, and all this movie says is that you're a big fan of Italian knock offs of 80s and 90s American movies aimed at teenagers.

Which makes @MysticSang'ha 's point about "adolescent" all the more poignant.

Edit: This movie made in 2007.

Movies where the geeky girl gets a makeover to be the "hot girl." A list based only on whatever I found first.

She's All That 1999 - Jock takes bet about taking ugly girl to prom, she's ugly because she has glasses and OMG a pony tail! If you want Freddie Prinze Jr. you better shorten that skirt missy!
Grease, 1978 (based off the play) - She's pretty but not slutty enough.
Dirty Dancing, 1987 - She's awkward, he's sexy
Strictly Ballroom, 1992 - Turn the frumpy woman to a sexy dancer!
Miss Congeniality, 2000 - She's tough, but she needs to be pretty too and isn't it funny how bad she is at being pretty!
Mean Girls 2004 - The movie tells us she's not pretty enough anyway, this one turns out ok.
Clueless 1995- Uh, What. Everrrrrrrrr Tai.
My Fair Lady 1964... Because Audrey Hepburn is ugly because she's poor and talks poor.

 

[Estro Felino]

guys, if you want to criticize someone, do criticize the director of the movie and all the people who loved it.
I didn't make the movie

 

[Drolefille]

guys, if you want to criticize someone, do criticize the director of the movie and all the people who loved it.
I didn't make the movie

You are advocating it. There are tons of dumb movies out there as noted in my edit to my post, that play the same old shtick.
Since I don't speak Italian I have no good way to see if there's some redeeming quality to this movie, but everything YOU are advocating about it, is worth criticism.

You cannot say "I believe X, just like this movie" and then say "It's the movie you should be upset at!"
People buy tickets to the Transformers movies, that doesn't mean I don't judge someone who tells me it's fine film and an example of how robots should behave in modern society.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

guys, if you want to criticize someone, do criticize the director of the movie and all the people who loved it.
I didn't make the movie

What's your take then?

 

[Sunstone]

My thoughts are that it's braindead trash. I don't think giving young girls the impression that they should strive to be petty, shallow, hollow mannequins is good for their mental and emotional health and development. I prefer real people with depth, substance, personality, and character. Not mindless, soulless clones.

Social misfit! What's wrong with you?

 

[Estro Felino]

It's funny how people here talk about the movie as if dealt with an unrealistic story.

I had this friend, Val. She refused to change her looks and to put on makeup. She was alone because she couldn't find a boyfriend.
My sister once told me: Val could write a book. Title: How to become a loo in 5 minutes.

Thanks to her best friend, she changed her looks and the guy she was in love with, fell in love with her.

so....facts are louder than words

The incriminated scene

Translation:
- But how did he react?
- He was ashamed of me. But...do I look like a looser?
- Shall I really answer?
- Don't be wicked to me!
- It's not being wicked. It's you who obstinately defend your looks!
- What should I do? Even the word looks make me want to wear worse clothes!
- That's Difficult!
- Can't you see? Even you? I want to be loved for what I am.
- Ah Giada....the inner beauty story is b*llsh*t! Assume that! In life pretty man chooses pretty woman. Even Darwin said that: that's natural selection!

 

[Estro Felino]

What's your take then?

instead of being sarcastic, do you really think that the movie is unrealistic?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

instead of being sarcastic, do you really think that the movie is unrealistic?

I wasn't being sarcastic. I gave my opinion of the movie plot and character arcs: adolescent.

I was responding to your insistence that everybody refrain from criticizing your perspective, though I have only seen you hint at your perspective rather than state outright what you think.

So, to be sure people do not misunderstand you, what is your take on the film?

 

[Melody]

Show me someone who says 'inner beauty is nonsense' and I'll show you someone who ends up with a shallow piece of arm candy and then wonders years later why they're divorced. No doubt physical beauty plays a part in attraction. The important thing to remember is that beauty doesn't just have one face or form...and teach that to our children.

I have not seen the movie and don't intend to. I'm just going by what was posted here. My problem with this type of movie has less to do with the idea that she needs to change her looks than with the view that she goes from stereotypically nerdy to trampy (just MHO). Look at the movie 'Grease'. Same concept. This absolutely is a mainstream view and all we can do to combat it is to raise our children to know this is a very false and artificial method of determining a person's worth.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Oh snap...Melody's back!!!! Woohoo!!!

 

[Estro Felino]

I wasn't being sarcastic. I gave my opinion of the movie plot and character arcs: adolescent.

I was responding to your insistence that everybody refrain from criticizing your perspective, though I have only seen you hint at your perspective rather than state outright what you think.

So, to be sure people do not misunderstand you, what is your take on the film?

I didn't understand what you mean by "take"-
You didn't answer the question: "do you really think that stories like this are unreal?"

 

[Estro Felino]

Show me someone who says 'inner beauty is nonsense' and I'll show you someone who ends up with a shallow piece of arm candy and then wonders years later why they're divorced.

.

My mother. My sisters. Lots of people.
well...my mother once told me that inner beauty is useless, if you want to get a boyfriend. Men want beauty.

 

[Riverwolf]

This title is between brackets because it is a quotation from an Italian movie Come tu mi vuoi (transl. As you want me to look like).
It tells the story of a college girl named Giada who falls in love with a college young man. She does't care much about her looks, and she defends the importance of inner beauty.
This guys seems to like her, but then she finds out that he's ashamed of going out with her, because he doesn't want to be ridiculed by his friends (who think that Giada is really ugly and uncool) .
Then she decides to change her looks after her roommate tells her: Ah, Giada, the inner beauty story is pure bull...it. Only beautiful people can like each other. It's natural selection.

and in fact she changes her looks totally. This movie suggests us that inner beauty unfortunately is not sufficient in the world we live in

here is the before and after

before

after

thoughts?

That movie sounds like a completely shallow, immature, and completely unrealistic piece of garbage.

Besides, "natural selection"? Really? Ever since we've started living in cities, natural selection has been basically obsolete as far as our species goes.

 

[Melody]

Unfortunately there are *lots* of people who believe that...but it doesn't make it true.
Again, beauty comes in many faces and forms. My 3 sons all married women who do not fit the media's view of 'beauty'...but I think they're beautiful. Even better, they have an inner beauty that just shines, making them even more beautiful.

 

[Riverwolf]

I didn't understand what you mean by "take"-

A person's "take" on something is their "opinion".

 

[Riverwolf]

I had this friend, Val. She refused to change her looks and to put on makeup. She was alone because she couldn't find a boyfriend.

My girlfriend doesn't wear makeup or do any of that stuff. I'm with her now, and we've been together for close to 8 years, now.

 

[Estro Felino]

A person's "take" on something is their "opinion".

ah, thanks. well...I've already said I wouldn't express my opinion on the movie in post #2.

 

[Estro Felino]

My girlfriend doesn't wear makeup or do any of that stuff. I'm with her now, and we've been together for close to 8 years, now.

well...I didn't deny these things may happen. I just said that the movie portrays a reality

 

[Riverwolf]

well...I didn't deny these things may happen. I just said that the movie portrays a reality, which is "the rule".

Except that I've observed more or less the same in my entire social circle, and well outside of it. This movie doesn't portray any "rule" in these parts. Maybe it's a "rule" in Italy, but that country isn't exactly a microcosm for the entirety of Western Civilization.

We have a saying here. "Different strokes for different folks".

 

[Estro Felino]

Maybe it's a "rule" in Italy, but that country isn't exactly a microcosm for the entirety of Western Civilization.
.

maybe?