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Gillette Commercial
- Thread starter Shaka
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Gillette's ad was ripe for parody.
Just FYI, we have a couple threads about this.
Politics of Shaving
Vote brigading
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I do think it's an appropriate message and is not in any way anti-male.
I hate to say this but I do believe there are way too many American men who "think" that acting like overgrown brats that lack even the most basic empathy towards others somehow makes them more of a man, and I know plenty of women who would agree.
I hate to say this but I do believe there are way too many American men who "think" that acting like overgrown brats that lack even the most basic empathy towards others somehow makes them more of a man, and I know plenty of women who would agree.
"Whataboutism" is distraction from an issue.
The OP poses an issue. It directly addresses the fundamental
sexism of the Gillette ad, and also the asymmetry, ie, that the left
is OK with wanting good men to take responsibility for bad ones,
but would never ask the same of good women.
They place women on a pedestal, immunized against criticism
because their role is singularly the victim.
Gillette raised an issue.
The OP raised another.
Both are valid.
But in this thread, to distract from its theme is the real "whataboutism".
Trackdayguy
Speed doesn't kill, it's hitting the wall
I guess your not a big fan of the #ME2 movement. Me neither, bunch of man haters.
No, I think it has great merit (some flawed responses notwithstanding).
People of all genders can endure harm as a result of dysfunctional
attitudes relating to gender. Sexual assault & wrongful accusation
are just the tip of the iceberg.
Look at me being all modern & progressive by using "all" instead of "both", eh.
I have no more time for anti-white, anti-rich, anti-male messages than I have for their converse. Gillette is trash, not interested.
If you have nothing to do but pick at peoples base values, culture, or physical properties you're just a piece of trash and I reject you. We need our tough guys and our softies, it's not a battle that has to be won. I'm tired of the divisiveness along these lines, and the woke AF progressive BS that seems to believe it's O.K. to jab at people that aren't like them.
I mean, I rip on the Democratic party all the time, but I realize most "Democratic Voters" are not nearly as polarized as the party is aiming to be. I realize the truth or value isn't always in the middle of the political spectrum, but I am going to sit in the middle because I'm going to listen to both sides. Then, I'm going to do the math.
I find nothing wrong with Gillette's ad and think it promotes a great message. The worst I can say about it is that it's not the most fitting ad for a razor product, and that's it. Otherwise I applaud Gillette's willingness to be progressive despite the fact that pushback from conservatives, insecure people, and anti-feminist demagogues was inevitable, especially given the current toxic political climate in the U.S.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
It amazes me that anyone considers this ad to be anti-male. It simply says that real men don't act like immature little boys. The only ones I imagine who are offended are all of the immature little boys who are all butt-hurt that real men are calling them out.
I would distance myself from anyone who thinks that commercial was "anti-male" somehow. Them revealing their rotten character is appreciated, though. Lets me know who to avoid.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So you consider victims of rape breaking their silence an act of misandry?
Trackdayguy
Speed doesn't kill, it's hitting the wall
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I have no more time for anti-white, anti-rich, anti-male messages than I have for their converse. Gillette is trash, not interested.
If you have nothing to do but pick at peoples base values, culture, or physical properties you're just a piece of trash and I reject you. We need our tough guys and our softies, it's not a battle that has to be won. I'm tired of the divisiveness along these lines, and the woke AF progressive BS that seems to believe it's O.K. to jab at people that aren't like them.
I mean, I rip on the Democratic party all the time, but I realize most "Democratic Voters" are not nearly as polarized as the party is aiming to be. I realize the truth or value isn't always in the middle of the political spectrum, but I am going to sit in the middle because I'm going to listen to both sides. Then, I'm going to do the math.
I just watched the video, and all I got from it was that it was suggesting that men should strive to be good examples to their kids and to stand up to bullying and the mistreatment of women. How exactly is this "PC/SJW" unless you believe that bullying and mistreating women are somehow an essential part of being a "real man"?
The real issue here is the fact that you're quoting a delusional and not-so-subtly prejudiced ideologue (Jordan Peterson) as if he were an authority on what Me Too stands for. I'm not surprised by this given the intellectual and ethical standards I've seen from many conservatives and supporters thereof, though.
I find the typical online anti-feminist brigade every bit as ironically thin-skinned and insecure as they strive to portray their critics as. It's like the confused kid in middle school who believes everyone else is less intelligent than he is and bullies them because of that belief.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The irony is that a lot of them are part of the basement dwelling alt-right crowd which largely consists of "incels" and "neckbeards" who have no real experience with women or children (or shaving) to begin with, and likely frequent targets of bullying themselves.
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