Give me a good reason for not leaving RF

[PoetPhilosopher]

4) The babes.

Thanks.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Because I would miss you!

Remember....adversity builds character.
And enduring hardship makes you tougher.
James 1:2-4

 

[RestlessSoul]

I also don’t feel that I myself inspire others an awful lot here either.

Actually you do

 

[Estro Felino]

Stay.
Because we Europeans are a minority here
Don't leave us

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Actually you do

Bless you RestlessSoul

Humbly
Hermit

 

[Viker]

Right now i am in a time of pondering what RF really mean to me, of course all the good discussion with friendly outcome is a pleasant excange, and i have some very good friends in here, And this is keeping me in RF right now.

As most if not all already know, i do not have anything against Atheists who want to discuss,but to be brutally honest, all the negativity toward God or other deities that are spoken about in RF, It has come to a point where i no longer feel a need to defend my own belief, and when this is spoken about in threads, this become seen as negative. Maybe it is no fun for people to not discuss the same topic about God vs No God anymore when the believer stop defending their belief.?

To me RF has been a free area where i can speak openly and with no worries, but this is no longer how i see it.
It is more of a pain to come in to RF this days. and RF has become more and more boring place to be.

So please give me a honest reason why I should stay.

I stopped defending my faith and decided to express myself to others. You do what you feel is right for you. I'd miss you and I'm sure others would, too.

 

[Meow Mix]

If anyone gives you egregious amounts of trouble you may be able to put them on ignore for a little while and see if your experience improves

Signed, someone that’s camping right now but still signs in to check on my people, which are people like you <3

 

[Brian2]

Right now i am in a time of pondering what RF really mean to me, of course all the good discussion with friendly outcome is a pleasant excange, and i have some very good friends in here, And this is keeping me in RF right now.

As most if not all already know, i do not have anything against Atheists who want to discuss,but to be brutally honest, all the negativity toward God or other deities that are spoken about in RF, It has come to a point where i no longer feel a need to defend my own belief, and when this is spoken about in threads, this become seen as negative. Maybe it is no fun for people to not discuss the same topic about God vs No God anymore when the believer stop defending their belief.?

To me RF has been a free area where i can speak openly and with no worries, but this is no longer how i see it.
It is more of a pain to come in to RF this days. and RF has become more and more boring place to be.

So please give me a honest reason why I should stay.

Once when I must have been making noises about leaving my wife and probably asked her why I should not leave she said that I would miss out on her.
Not that the fear of missing out should be a deciding factor, but my wife and I are still together many years later.

 

[Yerda]

I'm planning a lengthy series of long winded threads on the correct maintenacnce of toenails. You really don't want to miss that. Could be generation-defining literature.

Also, I've just (as in right this second) elected myself as King of the Atheists. If any atheists step out of line send them to me. I'll put them on toilet cleaning duties for the next decade.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Right now i am in a time of pondering what RF really mean to me, of course all the good discussion with friendly outcome is a pleasant excange, and i have some very good friends in here, And this is keeping me in RF right now.

As most if not all already know, i do not have anything against Atheists who want to discuss,but to be brutally honest, all the negativity toward God or other deities that are spoken about in RF, It has come to a point where i no longer feel a need to defend my own belief, and when this is spoken about in threads, this become seen as negative. Maybe it is no fun for people to not discuss the same topic about God vs No God anymore when the believer stop defending their belief.?

To me RF has been a free area where i can speak openly and with no worries, but this is no longer how i see it.
It is more of a pain to come in to RF this days. and RF has become more and more boring place to be.

So please give me a honest reason why I should stay.

In my experience, RF waxes and wanes with negativity. If you feel the negativity is affecting you personally, I can't come up with one good reason you should stay. I'm an advocate of removing oneself from situations that cause suffering.

That said, I, too, have felt similarly to what you're feeling. What keeps me coming back is the sense community. I feel I've made some friends here, and I would miss them if I took my leave. I also feel I have things to offer and things to learn.

That said, if you left permanently, personally, I would miss your presence here, but there is nothing wrong with stepping back and taking a break to assess things.

 

[SalixIncendium]

As far as i know, i am the only sufi here might be a bit lonely and boring to only speak with my self But i get your point

Are you kidding?! I spend at least 8 hours a day talking to myself. I can be very entertaining!

 

[Mock Turtle]

I suspect there are many forums a lot worse than RF, so it might be down to the devil you know. But mainly I would advise anyone who has issues with anything seemingly seen as personal slight or as attacking them to just grow a thicker skin. Since it's usually our reactions to what we perceive that harms us or offends us than what is given - but then I'm thicker than most probably.

And I'm sure you have as many friends here as possible enemies.

 

[Secret Chief]

i am the only sufi here

We are all unique.

 

[Secret Chief]

I also don’t feel that I myself inspire others an awful lot here either

One never knows...

I was inspired by your artwork.

 

[Secret Chief]

I'm planning a lengthy series of long winded threads on the correct maintenacnce of toenails.

I wasn't thinking of leaving. But now.......

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

i am honestly really tired of the negativity

You and I have discussed this in the past. What you are calling negativity others call dissent. Sometimes, the believer calls it attack. It's really up to you how you decide to interpret the responses you receive.

Recently, I asked you what your spiritual journey was, and what kinds of insights you had received, since you frequently refer to these activities as proceeding along a path to spiritual growth. I told you that I suspect that whatever it is that you are referring to, it was probably no more than the process of self-examination that some others go through without the spiritual trappings - what some call the woo. I was hoping that if I were wrong, that you might provide some kind of answer to make me think otherwise. Your answer was basically that it was private and ineffable knowledge, and I told you that I interpreted that as meaning that my hypothesis was probably correct. Perhaps this is some of the negativity to which you refer.

But if this is what happened, then your expectations are unrealistic. This is not a meeting of like-minded people discussing spiritualism, but a mixed forum that includes people that will challenge your assertions, if asking you to explain them can be called challenging. I didn't ask you to defend your beliefs, just to articulate them, and you declined. Had you articulated them, I might have challenged them, but we never got that far.

I don't see anything other than this kind of exchange of ideas occurring here, but you call it negativity.

I do not understand the constant push for telling believers that they are wrong in their personal belief in a God.

You are rarely told that you are wrong. You are generally told by others that you haven't convinced them. Is this the negativity to which you refer? If so, perhaps a mixed forum isn't the place for you. I can assure you that you will receive a steady supply of what you call negativity and others call discussion and dissent.

I recommend staying and rethinking how you choose to view the dissenting opinions of others. Look at how they react when you disagree with them. They choose to view dissent not as personal attack or negativity, but as difference of opinion. You can do the same.

 

[oldbadger]

Right now i am in a time of pondering what RF really mean to me, of course all the good discussion with friendly outcome is a pleasant excange, and i have some very good friends in here, And this is keeping me in RF right now.

As most if not all already know, i do not have anything against Atheists who want to discuss,but to be brutally honest, all the negativity toward God or other deities that are spoken about in RF, It has come to a point where i no longer feel a need to defend my own belief, and when this is spoken about in threads, this become seen as negative. Maybe it is no fun for people to not discuss the same topic about God vs No God anymore when the believer stop defending their belief.?

To me RF has been a free area where i can speak openly and with no worries, but this is no longer how i see it.
It is more of a pain to come in to RF this days. and RF has become more and more boring place to be.

So please give me a honest reason why I should stay.

Hi CT
Don't say you'll go.
Don't say you'll stay.

If you don't look in tomorrow, or next month, or next year, it's ok because your place will just be waiting for you.

It's ok.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Right now i am in a time of pondering what RF really mean to me, of course all the good discussion with friendly outcome is a pleasant excange, and i have some very good friends in here, And this is keeping me in RF right now.

As most if not all already know, i do not have anything against Atheists who want to discuss,but to be brutally honest, all the negativity toward God or other deities that are spoken about in RF, It has come to a point where i no longer feel a need to defend my own belief, and when this is spoken about in threads, this become seen as negative. Maybe it is no fun for people to not discuss the same topic about God vs No God anymore when the believer stop defending their belief.?

To me RF has been a free area where i can speak openly and with no worries, but this is no longer how i see it.
It is more of a pain to come in to RF this days. and RF has become more and more boring place to be.

So please give me a honest reason why I should stay.

I honestly don't know. I'm sure majority of nonbelievers that debate against no God do actually want to know but maybe their character doesn't mesh with you. For example, some people are more direct than others. Other times I think "maybe" debating about god makes it feel they are attacking you and/or your god personally. There's a term for that. Forgot.

I hate to say this since you're a cool guy, but in your spiritual awakening stage now, I'd say drop it. Not much so cause of the people but more so because s.a. you tend to pick up negativity like a magnet. It can drain your energy etc.

Anyway, it may be blocking your spiritual growth.

The only reason I can think of staying is it's a good place to journal. You can "watch forums" that are positive and when visiting the page, click that instead of reading new threads.

I don't believe people are trying to discredit your God on purpose but relaying their views cause of their personal experience. Try not to think they are insulting your god.

Anyway. Ha. Again. I can't think of any other reason or tip above.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I am fully up for discussion, also with non belivers,actually some of them are very nice to discuss with. But it is a few who cant seem to leave a beliver have their belief.

Can you "ignore" them?

I did that once years ago, put quite a few on ignore and realized there were only so many subjects I'm actually interested in. That and when you don't get oddball silly replies you don't tend to check RF as much.

 

[F1fan]

It is not that i must leave I can stay with no problem but i am honestly really tired of the negativity (might be because i experience negativity in my personal life right now).

Open religious debate can be difficult for some believers. It's not for everyone.

I do not understand the constant push for telling believers that they are wrong in their personal belief in a God.And this make me think about what the real reason I stay in RF is. and now i do not have an answer

As I noted a few days ago you do have a pattern of making statements about your belief in rebuttal to topics, and this opens the door to criticism of your belief. So some of this is self inflicted. You being Sufi means your beliefs are not usually in the line of fire, so you could chime in about many topics and not bring your personal belief into it.