Give me one sentence from your holy book that...

[Anti-thesisofreason]

"I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are free."

Principia Discordia, Pg 00009

 

[Riverwolf]

What? Do you not think it's heavenly?

It's a better slave (or rather, servant) system than what was going on a few hundred years ago in America.

I say that it was meant as an improvement of slave-status over what it otherwise was at the time. I certainly don't believe it came directly from God.

I still don't see what point you were trying to make.

 

[dharma_seeker]

‘Ayam bandhurayam neti gananā laghuchetasām,
Udāracharitānām tu vasudhaiva kutumbakam’ (Maha Upanishad: Chapter 6, Verse 72),
‘One is my brother and the other is not – is the thinking of a small men or a narrow-minded person. For those who are broad-minded or wise people the entire world is a one big family.’

This is Vedic concept of “Universalism” or “Universal brotherhood”. This is really needed for bringing Global PEACE!

 

[Shia Islam]

" As for those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good." Quran

Shia 8th Imam, Imam Ridha: "…that is because if people have heard the beauty of our speech, they would have follow us" (translated by me).

 

[Father Heathen]

It's a better slave (or rather, servant) system than what was going on a few hundred years ago in America.

I say that it was meant as an improvement of slave-status over what it otherwise was at the time. I certainly don't believe it came directly from God.

I still don't see what point you were trying to make.

Uhh... Selling children into sexual slavery is never ever acceptable, regardless what the cultural norms may be or have been, and shouldn't the the supposed mercy and justice of God's will supercede cultural norms, anyway? I know some people like to promote peace, love, tolerance and diplomacy to the point of nausea, but sometimes we just have to be rational and honest and acknowledge things for the garbage that they are, regardless of whether or not other people revere them for whatever bizarre reason. For ****'s sake we're talking about selling children into sexual slavery, and you're so obsessed with defending every single religious and/or cultural practice and standpoint that you would actually try to excuse and justify it?

 

[Kittles10]

You bring up a good point. But where did you get your internal morality that it is not ok to sell children into sexual slavery? Where did your morals come from?

 

[Father Heathen]

You bring up a good point. But where did you get your internal morality that it is not ok to sell children into sexual slavery? Where did your morals come from?

Honor, honesty, logic and compassion. No invisible sky daddy required. It's all innate and reasoned.

 

[Kittles10]

Well in your post you say that selling children is never acceptable regardless of cultural norms. So if your morals are intrinsic and made up of so called "honor, honesty, logic and compassion" isn't it impossible to say that this rule should be applied to all cultural norms? How can you state an absolute from an individual perspective?

 

[Father Heathen]

Well in your post you say that selling children is never acceptable regardless of cultural norms. So if your morals are intrinsic and made up of so called "honor, honesty, logic and compassion" isn't it impossible to say that this rule should be applied to all cultural norms? How can you state an absolute from an individual perspective?

Because the consequences of actions are not matters of opinion. Victimizing an innocent child does horrendous damage regardless of what a particular society's attitude toward it might be. Protecting each others rights as people is of both rational self-interest and mutual benefit. We humans are social animals and should operate on our innate compassion for one another.

 

[ChristineES]

I can post many, but will they touch you? Just because something touches me doesn't mean it will touch someone else. But I will try, just something from Psalms:


Psalm 16:11 You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

 

[Breathe]

My signature, from Guru Granth Sahib:

ਕਬੀਰ ਸਾਤ ਸਮੁੰਦਹਿ ਮਸੁ ਕਰਉ ਕਲਮ ਕਰਉ ਬਨਰਾਇ ॥
Kabeer, if I could change the seven seas into ink and make all the vegetation my pen,

ਬਸੁਧਾ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਜਉ ਕਰਉ ਹਰਿ ਜਸੁ ਲਿਖਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥੮੧॥
and the earth my paper, even then, I could not write the Praises of the Lord. ||81||

 

[Shia Islam]

My signature, from Guru Granth Sahib:

ਕਬੀਰ ਸਾਤ ਸਮੁੰਦਹਿ ਮਸੁ ਕਰਉ ਕਲਮ ਕਰਉ ਬਨਰਾਇ ॥
Kabeer, if I could change the seven seas into ink and make all the vegetation my pen,

ਬਸੁਧਾ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਜਉ ਕਰਉ ਹਰਿ ਜਸੁ ਲਿਖਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥੮੧॥
and the earth my paper, even then, I could not write the Praises of the Lord. ||81||

Is it by chance then that it resembles the following verse of the holy Quran:

"And if all the trees in the earth were pens, and the sea, with seven more seas to help it, (were ink), the words of Allah could not be exhausted. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise." Quran s31 - v27

??

 

[Breathe]

Is it by chance then that it resembles the following verse of the holy Quran:

"And if all the trees in the earth were pens, and the sea, with seven more seas to help it, (were ink), the words of Allah could not be exhausted. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise." Quran s31 - v27

Kabir was a Muslim mystic.
(And that, by the way, is my favourite Qur'anic verse)

 

[angellous_evangellous]

What's so amazing about this? That somebody was looking for the bright side and suggesting the under dogs will win in the end?

No. It means that it's worthwhile to live a redemptive life through service and suffering rather than killing others and taking their resources. It means that turning the other cheek is more profitable than retaliation. And it makes this life better, not just the afterlife.

Ghandi is a perfect example of how "the meek inherit the earth." He was meek, he found God, and he emancipated India from Britain's crushing rule.

This kind of meekness is needed in the Middle East today - imagine what would happen if the Arabs and Jews embraced non-violence under the leadership of another Ghandi.

 

[Caladan]

"How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain."

~Jeremiah 8:8, Hebrew Bible

The beauty of the Hebrew scriptures is the human context in it. so much more is revealed when a god is out of the equation on many occasions.

 

[Riverwolf]

Uhh... Selling children into sexual slavery is never ever acceptable, regardless what the cultural norms...

"Acceptable" doesn't exist outside of cultural norms.

EDIT: Oh, and I don't think it said anything about children. Even if it did, I doubt the ancient Hebrews knew as much about child psychology (or psychology in general, for that matter) as we do today. Another thing, from what I've heard, it wasn't slavery like we Americans knew it, but servanthood. You know, like housekeepers. We still have those, after all. My mom has a few come in occasionally.

 

[Mr Cheese]

It is I who am you, and it is you who are me. And wherever you are, I am there.
And I am sown in all; and you collect me from wherever you wish.

And when you collect me, it is your own self that you collect.

--The Gospel of Eve​

 

[sojourner]

has content that is so remarkable, useful, or beautiful that it must have been divinely inspired, and not the writing of ancient men clutching for answers in a mysterious universe.

Are remarkability, usefulness or beauty the only qualifiers for Divine inspiration? Are ancient, human writings never inspired?

 

[Just_me_Mike]

I'm going to sew your but-hole shut and keep feeding you and feeding you until you die

Eazy-E 1980's