PAUL MARKHAM
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It doesn't state time, place, mission etc. It says very little. I did read he would come to Israel from the East or something similar. How much time did he spend in Israel?
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God’s Method of delivering messages, is it flawed?
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Time will tell if your choice of backhand mocking has any foundations.
Thus I think it may be time to let it all go with this verse, one needs to look at the spirit within the words offered.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
That verse is telling us the consequences of rejection of the Light. We are created at the edge of darkness, the beginning of light. Light is a choice, if we do not choose light, then darkness is our life, with light always available.
Regards Tony
Bahá'u'lláh arrived in Akka in August 1868 with the band of exiles, about 70 from memory. If you want to read of that arrival, this link tells of the arrival and first days.
Arrival in the Prison of Akka: Abdu'l Baha - Beyond Foreignness
Baha'u'llah is still there, just outside Akka, passed on in 29 May 1892.
Regards Tony
PAUL MARKHAM
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I agree with you. Time will tell who is right. As the Earth warms, the populations explode we will come to a point where resources are hard to find. Then the crunch happens. Maybe in 100 or 200 years time, but it's coming.Time will tell if your choice of backhand mocking has any foundations.
Thus I think it may be time to let it all go with this verse, one needs to look at the spirit within the words offered.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
That verse is telling us the consequences of rejection of the Light. We are created at the edge of darkness, the beginning of light. Light is a choice, if we do not choose light, then darkness is our life, with light always available.
Regards Tony
That is because prophecy requires us to search with heart and soul and open our spiritual eyes.
Matthew 24:36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Baha'u'llah is the Father and only Baha'u'llah could fulfil the Prophecies by His Life.
Likewise, the Bab fulfilled many by being the Gate to that Message.
Regards Tony
PAUL MARKHAM
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Please help me.
I googled where Akka is and got Morocco. Did you mean Acre?
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I am thinking that world events along with what is recorded as to what will happen, that if it does not happen within the next few to ten years, we will leave no viable liveable planet for future generations.
Regards Tony
PAUL MARKHAM
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The planet will survive and even if Man is wiped out new species will evolve. Unless we go to ww3 and nuke the lot of it. Even then it's possible species will survive.
I believe we are clever enough for some to survive.
It spelt different ways Akka, Acre and in the Bible it is Achor.
Hosea 2:15 "There I will give her back her vineyards, and will make the Valley of Achor a door of hope......"
Just north of Mount Carmel and in the Bible it says;
ISAIAH 35:2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the Lord, and the excellency of our God.
Glory of the Lord, or Glory of God is English translation of Baha'u'llah.
Regards Tony
We will indeed survive and build a great future where our oneness is acknowledged.
All the best Paul.
Regards Tony
PAUL MARKHAM
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Thank you.
Dod he go to Acre or taken there?
Found the answer.
Bahaullah preached a lot of good stuff, there's no denying that. I deny the part that he was from god or any type of messenger.
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PAUL MARKHAM
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It will be a very different world. Very few people with a hierarchy that rules the entire force, or small groups disjointed and fighting amongst themselves.
Banished from Adrianopal (now Edirne) to Akka, his final banishment.
Baha'u'llah died as a prisoner, never released.
Regards Tony
A vision has been given that paints a positive future, war will not be waged.
Regards Tony
PAUL MARKHAM
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That will require a lot of Men with the biggest guns. not any Messiah can achieve it.
Or more likely, many men with the biggest minds, founded on advice given by the Messiah, that limit the many guns.
Regards Tony
PAUL MARKHAM
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So no guns, they will use stones then.
So long as one Man has something another Man wants we will suffer fighting.
Trailblazer
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No, the method is not flawed, the people are flawed because they are not recognizing the messages. Instead of looking at the new message God sent through Baha'u'llah they cling to older messages from older religions that are of no real use in today's world, with all the social and economic problems we have. Failure to get the message is all related to humans, not to God or the Messenger.
I have listed the seven reasons that people do not get the message. Human's failure to get the message and do something with it has nothing to do with the method of communication God uses, Messengers, so there is absolutely no reason for God to change His Method of communicating. Aside from that, you act as if there was a better way for God to communicate and there really is no other way that could ever work at all.
Trailblazer
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There is no way it can be proven. All we have is what Baha'u'llah said and we take Him at His word or not.
The existence if thousands of fake gurus does not mean there are no real Messengers of God, to say that is illogical.
Trailblazer
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I know it is a belief and I cannot prove it is true to anyone except myself.
You continue to get this backwards and put the cart before the horse....
God is not creating the New Race so they will follow Baha'u'llah, mankind will become a New race by following Baha'u'llah. Moreover, God is not creating a New Race of Men, men will become a New Race all by themselves.
Here are some more quotes that will hopefully help you to understand:
“At the heart of this system was what Bahá’u’lláh termed a “new Covenant” between God and humankind. The distinguishing feature of humanity’s coming of age is that, for the first time in its history, the entire human race is consciously involved, however dimly, in the awareness of its own oneness and of the earth as a single homeland. This awakening opens the way to a new relationship between God and humankind. As the peoples of the world embrace the spiritual authority inherent in the guidance of the Revelation of God for this age, Bahá’u’lláh said, they will find in themselves a moral empowerment which human effort alone has proven incapable of generating. “A new race of men” will emerge as the result of this relationship, and the work of building a global civilization will begin.” (Bahá’í International Community, 1992 May 29, Statement on Bahá’u’lláh, p. 26)
“In this age humanity has strayed far from the path of truth, and the call of Bahá’u’lláh to recognize Him as the viceregent of God on earth has fallen on deaf ears. But a careful study of His writings leads us to believe that His Revelation, being the culmination of past Revelations and one which has ushered in the Day of God Himself, will exert such a potent influence upon mankind as a whole that eventually all the peoples of the world will recognize His station of their own free will and embrace His cause of their own volition. And this in turn will bring about, in the distant future, the appearance of a new race of men whose noble character and spiritual virtues we, in this age, are unable to visualize.” (AdibTaherzadeh, The Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh v 3, p. 3)
“With the establishment of the Most Great Peace and the spiritualization of the peoples of the world, man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections. This is one of the fruits of the Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh, promised by Him. The nobility of man and his spiritual development will lead him in the future to such a position that no individual could enjoy eating his food or resting at home while knowing that there was one person somewhere in the world without food or shelter. It is Bahá’u’lláh’s mission to create such a new race of men.” (Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh v 3, p. 126)
New Race of Men