psychoslice
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Smart_Guy could never be rude, he just a great fellow.
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Well you deserve it my friend.Oh gosh you guys, cut it out, you're making me blush
Constructively blush
Don't "think."
Being conscious and alive is not separate from body.
Pulling scriptures out such as you have, why don't you search where "God" abides. Where the tabernacle of God truly is.
"I am." =
The very nature of God. The phrase “I AM THAT I AM” is meant to be understood metaphysically, it means God is BEING. BEING is that which is both the un-manifested (spirit) and that which is manifested (physical matter) at the same time. God is the sum total of both, the unborn infinite potential and the creation.
I'm not sure what kind of image you've created of what and who "God" is but it gives the false impression of the infinite, God cannot be represented by any form (things). Contrary to popular belief, God does not have a body separate from his creation. He is the sum total of it all.
In my beliefs, it happens in the flesh. There is lots to say about the nature of this resurrection in my beliefs and it is not pretty. But perhaps even if it is in spirit, there still can be blessing and torture that be inflicted upon it.
Everyone thinks the God they personally believe in is the right one of course. But what if its not...
But if there is no glory in being human, why would human qualities be found in the next life?
And that doesn't answer my question. If I am correct in assuming you are implying that humans are transformed into spiritual beings, then how would we function? What would happen of us? We are the way we are because we are human. If we cease to be human, we become something entirely different. Thus, we, or rather more specifically, "I," must cease to exist in order for this transformation to occur because "I" is a brain. Not unless you attach something that is needless onto it. That, however, is to open up a flood gate of questions.
I see this life a means of generating unique spirit on each occasion of person.
When then shed the flesh and move to something more.
I suspect the next life is more.
It will have greater Hierarchy....and discipline.
It will then have greater opportunity.
But why deliver greater things unto those not willing?
unto those not peaceful.
unto those without belief of spirit?
If you cannot be trusted with lesser things....how then anything greater?
Please explain how.Atheists will be the biggest losers in your scenario
Gosh. So many people hoping for an afterlife.
That is just weird. And more than a bit disgusting, frankly.
I'm not angry, Smart Guy. That is a good question to ask. I am glad that you did ask it.
All the same, that people see afterlives as desirable, let alone believable... that does bug me quite a lot. It hurts my ability to have hope in humanity.
That is just how things are, at least now (and have always been to me far as I can remember). I have honestly never come across any arguments for either the existence or the desirability of an afterlife that I could muster much sympathy for... and quite a few are indeed disgusting, clear evidence of very misguided and harmful beliefs.
So if religion says don't commit adultery then it's the Satan and his demons asking us not to commit adultery.
But if the Christian or Muslim God is real then you would find it appealing cos He designed it so everybody is happy there. It's probably like the party you get forced to attend even though you don't want to and end up having a great time.
In Valhalla, you just get to get drunk and feast every day on some tip-top booze made by Gods which sounds alright too.
As regards the OP, better to believe and be wrong as there is no downside. If you don't believe and are wrong, then you might die and then find out you were in for an eternity of excruciating torment on the same day which would probably be a bit irritating
Its better to live with hope then without hope.
Speaking about coming back, there is to me fascinating research on reincarnation including tracing birth defects of children back to past lives This Scientific American blog posting is to me a very good introduction Ian Stevenson’s Case for the Afterlife: Are We ‘Skeptics’ Really Just Cynics? | Bering in Mind, Scientific American Blog Network My only quibble is his comment about karma which is based on the assumption that a succeeding life is necessarily karmicly determined by a specific preceding one. But otherwise it's well worth reading.
The poll... False Dichotomy.. I can't even answer it...
You are asking a question like this... Have you stopped beating your wife?
You get the same conclusion that I am a wife beater no matter if I reply yes or no.
If I am NOT a wife beater, I would need another option than just yes or no.
You didn't offer the "I don't think either choice is valid", option that I would have checked off.
So, the only POSSIBLE way for me to respond to your poll is to simply NOT answer it.
And this is supposed to engage atheists?
Well, in my case, it doesn't.
This is provided believing in God leads to heaven and disbelieving in Him leads to hell.