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Glad to be able to be here and thanks to the Creator Lord Jesus to allow me to spread His message. Hope for everyone to enjoy this Christmas safely and full of joy, remembering that the biggest gift you can receive is to allow our Lord to be within your heart.
God bless you.
God bless you.Hello,
Glad to be able to be here and thanks to the Creator Lord Jesus to allow me to spread His message. Hope for everyone to enjoy this Christmas safely and full of joy, remembering that the biggest gift you can receive is to allow our Lord to be within your heart.
God bless you.
I looked in the Interlinear Translation of the Christian Greek (NT) Scriptures at Luke 2:14 and this is what I found.That is one viewpoint. The NASB says it this way:
14 “Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!
It is the exegesis that gives it different viewpoints.
14 δόξα sc. ἐστίν (indic., now that Messiah is born) not ἔστω impv. ὕψιστος highest, τὰ ὕ. the heavens. ἐν ἀνθρώποις among men or ἐν before dat. possibly pleon. to or for men §120. εὐδοκία favour, good-will, ἄνθρωποι εὐδοκίας a Hebr., gen. standing for adj. “men pleasing to him”, i.e. men in whom he is well pleased ⟦var. ἐν ἀνθρώποις εὐδοκία good will among (or to/for) men⟧...............
I looked in the Interlinear Translation of the Christian Greek (NT) Scriptures at Luke 2:14 and this is what I found.
'....... and upon earth peace in men of well thinking.'
I agree definitely as posted above peace among those with whom He (God) is pleased. ( or whom God approves )
Which is quite a difference from 'good will towards men' in general.
The angelic hosts were Not proclaiming peace to God's enemies because there is No peace for them - Isaiah 57:21
So, it is the old JKV wording that is Not clear in that particular verse found at Luke 2:14.
Thus, the men pleasing God would be the ones who choose to follow His Son
one does not say pbuh to fsm, the lord of universe. that is for his minions.May the FSM -- PBUH -- shower you with beer and caress you with His noodly appendage.
Welcome to RF. I'd be glad to discuss Jesus with you.
not to all! hell for atheists?I often hear the expression ' good will towards men....... '
But in the original isn't it: ' Peace on Earth towards men of goodwill. ' ( a difference in meaning )
here again. i don't agree to existence of any god, but hindus have different gods and goddesses and they do not exclude anyone in their blessings, even atheists and those who are not hindus. you people are drumming your view.That is one viewpoint. The NASB says it this way:
14 “Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!
To which 'hell' are you referring?........................not to all! hell for atheists?
That’s definitely the Watchtower view and interpretation, but certainly not the orthodox Christian view of the way the scriptures portray Jesus Christ as the eternal Son; Creator and One with His Father and Holy Spirit.Hello and welcome to RF
The Creator having No beginning according to Psalm 90:2, meaning God was before the beginning of anything.
Whereas, pre-human heavenly Jesus was "IN" the beginning but never ' before ' the beginning as his God was.
Yes, Jesus is the Eternal Son. Jesus answered truthfully at John 10:36 as to who he is ______________That’s definitely the Watchtower view and interpretation, but certainly not the orthodox Christian view of the way the scriptures portray Jesus Christ as the eternal Son; Creator and One with His Father and Holy Spirit.
Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. Colossians 2:8-10
.... and I would like to wish everyone a blessed-and-safe passage into calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000 year reign over Earth................................., but would like to wish everyone a blessed and safe holiday season.
Take care, Oeste
Hello,
Glad to be able to be here and thanks to the Creator Lord Jesus to allow me to spread His message. Hope for everyone to enjoy this Christmas safely and full of joy, remembering that the biggest gift you can receive is to allow our Lord to be within your heart.
God bless you.