God ... breaking his own rules?!

[Manix]

now please correct me where im goin wrong here as im not an avid religious person, does it not say that man was created in gods image, so their for, god should be setting the standard by which we live our lives now 1 of the 10 commandments states .

:: Neither shall you covet your neighbour’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbour’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.

now, im not too sure how this came about but, isnt what he done with mary the mother of jesus breaking that very rule? or does he hold him self superior to man?
and on the same note isnt mary breaking

::You shall not commit adultery??

the reason i make that assumption is, even tho to her this may have been a fantastic opurtunity she still had a partner ie joseph correct? now where am i goin wrong here as i say im not too clued up on all this, its all part remembered facts from my youth an small titbits from the net

 

[Breathe]

Hi and welcome to the forum.

As to your question, no.

Within traditional Christian belief, God did not have sexual intercourse with Mary. He willed her to be pregnant. God does not have a physical form, and so intercourse would be impossible - God is not flesh, blood and bones, but a spirit.

Mary accepted the role she was given when the archangel Gabriel spoke to her.

 

[Watchmen]

Whether God is a physical being or not, Mary could become pregnant without intercourse. In fact, we can make people pregnant today without intercourse. If we can do it, I'm fairly certain God can too.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

If we make the assumption that God is the creator of the universe, then everything born is born of God.

 

[Sententia]

If we make the assumption that God is the creator of the universe, then everything born is born of God.

And god created himself too? Interesting theory....

 

[lamplighter]

So he's really impregnating his own child then? Sounds Jerry Springer-ish.......

 

[zenzero]

Friends,
Mary & Jesus were just born lucky as at the time DNA testing had not developed and so they escaped all verifications or else the world could have benefited from God's own DNA.
Love & rgds

 

[Breathe]

So he's really impregnating his own child then? Sounds Jerry Springer-ish.......

Hardy-har-har.
God does not not 'impregnate' his children, as God is incorporeal and does not have sex with them. It is by God's will that these children are born.

 

[Manix]

thank you for the answers already, its an interesting proposition that we are all gods children so their for what he did with mary was deemed a blessing on her and mankind, however, if this was modern times, joseph would of had somethin to say about bringing up this child especially when he only had her word that the child was in facts the spawn of god an not someone she met while out for a walk, she accepted the responsibility to bring this child into the world without consulting her partner who regardless of whos child it was had a right to know what was happening before it was all decided.

or was he told as well as mary that this was going to happen?

ty again

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

now please correct me where im goin wrong here as im not an avid religious person, does it not say that man was created in gods image, so their for, god should be setting the standard by which we live our lives now 1 of the 10 commandments states .

You're going wrong here ... there's no there in your therefore.

 

[Breathe]

thank you for the answers already, its an interesting proposition that we are all gods children

I agree.

so their for what he did with mary was deemed a blessing on her and mankind, however, if this was modern times, joseph would of had somethin to say about bringing up this child especially when he only had her word that the child was in facts the spawn of god an not someone she met while out for a walk, she accepted the responsibility to bring this child into the world without consulting her partner who regardless of whos child it was had a right to know what was happening before it was all decided.

or was he told as well as mary that this was going to happen?

ty again

Good question. At first, Joseph thought that she had committed adultery, and thus, planned on divorcing her. However, since he was a nice guy and didn't want to shame her, he planned on making it a quiet thing - no witnesses, etc, just calling it off quietly.

During his sleep, however, an angel spoke to him and told him that he should marry Mary, because she has not had sex and the baby has been willed into existence by the will of the Holy Spirit. (Matthew 1:18-25)

The angel told him that it was a fulfilment of religious scripture - that a virgin would have a child, who would be "called" (the word used can mean both a literal name, and something people are called; therefore, my "name" would be Odion, despite that not being my real name) Immanuel, meaning "God (is) with us". (Isaiah 7:14)

Mary did know she would give birth because of the angel, and and accepted the role. (Luke 1:38) Mary risked everything and entrusted her whole life to God during this, as punishment for unmarried sex, especially as she was due to have been married to Joseph, would have been considered as adultery - something which carried the death penalty. If Joseph was not a nice guy, he could have probably had her stoned to death, but even before he knew he didn't want this to happen, and wanted to divorce her quietly instead before he knew what was happening.

I'm pretty sure Joseph would have been his act-in dad and brought him up as though he was his own son. Joseph did in fact have other children - although whether or not it was with Mary is up to debate with those who believe she was always a virgin. I do not.

 

[Kcnorwood]

On a side note God did break his on rules by telling us not to kill but had no problem doing it himself.

 

[Breathe]

On a side note God did break his on rules by telling us not to kill but had no problem doing it himself.

Hmm, that's a good one. I wonder what a Christian will say to it..

That's not, however, part of the discussion at hand - feel free to start a new thread on it though, as the OP is new I think we should allow the OP to ask their questions without taking the thread in a direction other than the way they want.

 

[horizon_mj1]

Joseph and Mary were not yet married but betrothed to each other, she would have been commiting fornication not adultry. Although the Bible states that we are made in the image of God, what image are they referring to. The world is very materialistic by seeing this in the only comprehension of how we look. Couldn't the mentioning image be a reference to our soul or maybe even our feelings? (Welcome to RF)

 

[Breathe]

Joseph and Mary were not yet married but betrothed to each other, she would have been commiting fornication not adultry.

Hmmm, I'm not sure whether or not it would - there is a chance it could have fallen under adultery because they were nevertheless betrothed to one another - despite it not technically being adultery and them not being actually married at the time, with the amount that the Pharisees are scrutinizing the laws it could have been taken to mean this.

I expect that because they were due to be together, it could have been tried as though it was adultery nevertheless, because they were still due to be married - though if not, then Mary would have lived a lonely life if not stoned to death... hmm... that's a toughie. I'm sure someone knows more about it though. I could be wrong.

Although the Bible states that we are made in the image of God, what image are they referring to. The world is very materialistic by seeing this in the only comprehension of how we look. Couldn't the mentioning image be a reference to our soul or maybe even our feelings?

That's how I take it to mean myself.

 

[horizon_mj1]

You are right Odion. I really didn't give it much thought of how the Pharisees would percieve the situation.

 

[Breathe]

You are right Odion. I really didn't give it much thought of how the Pharisees would percieve the situation.

Haha, it's ok. I had to re-write my paragraph when I just thought "How would a Pharisee perceive it?".

 

[Kcnorwood]

Hmm, that's a good one. I wonder what a Christian will say to it..

That's not, however, part of the discussion at hand - feel free to start a new thread on it though, as the OP is new I think we should allow the OP to ask their questions without taking the thread in a direction other than the way they want.

The OP did mention the 10 Commandments so I went with it.

 

[Breathe]

The OP did mention the 10 Commandments so I went with it.

No problem

 

[Idiolatry]

If you take a Christian view that Jesus is God manifest, Jesus didn't honour mother and father (Luke 14:26). Lots of instances of murder/killing (eg Exodus 12:29-30). Jesus authorized stealing (Mark 11:1-3, Matthew 8:28-34). Jesus lies (Matthew 24:34, John 7:8-10).

So, God does break the commandments. This isn't even touching the seven deadly sins.