God has to prove to me that He exists: what kind of proof should I demand?

[blü 2]

You are entitled to your objective tests of truth whereas I have my own test that I feel is objective enough: It relies upon God to provide me with what is true and what is false, as the process of satya-advaita relates to an Enforcer of truth through the maxim Satyameva Jayate as I mentioned.

If you think truth is whatever suits you, if you think gods exist outside of imagination, if you think 'Enforcer of truth' is a meaningful expression, then those are matters for you. I've told you why I don't, and after that I'm just repeating myself.

I do take issue with your subsequent reply on my thread that I started for the reason that I received the following post in Site Feedback which should be clear for all to see as a deliberately persecutory act:

As I said, I have no interest in going there.

So I guess we're about done.

Live long and prosper. \\//

 

[Wandering Monk]

“If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank.”

― Woody Allen

 

[Shantanu]

If you think truth is whatever suits you, if you think gods exist outside of imagination, if you think 'Enforcer of truth' is a meaningful expression, then those are matters for you. I've told you why I don't, and after that I'm just repeating myself.

Truth is factual existence.

 

[Shantanu]

“If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank.”

― Woody Allen

That is not going to happen anytime soon: there are more serious things in life like resisting oppression.

 

[Wandering Monk]

That is not going to happen anytime soon: there are more serious things in life like resisting oppression.

Apparently you have no sense of humor.

 

[Shantanu]

Apparently you have no sense of humor.

Life has made me like that because I have spent 20 years in the shadow of God.

 

[blü 2]

Truth is factual existence.

Under the 'correspondence' definition, a statement is true to the extent that it corresponds to / conforms with / accurately reflects objective reality. Hence it comes with an objective test. But I'm just repeating myself.

Over and out.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Life has made me like that because I have spent 20 years in the shadow of God.

If this is what spending time in God's shadow does to people, you can have it.

 

[Milton Platt]

My search for the truth about Existence has come to this question?

Any ideas?

If there is a being that is worthy of being called a god, it will know what is necessary for you to believe. Therefore, it falls to that being to give you what is necessary for that to happen. If it does not happen, then either the being does not exist, or it exists but does not care whether you believe or not, or is deliberately deceiving you. Take your pick.

 

[Shantanu]

If this is what spending time in God's shadow does to people, you can have it.

There is no place for humour when one is resisting persecution with or without God's assistance.

 

[Shantanu]

Under the 'correspondence' definition, a statement is true to the extent that it corresponds to / conforms with / accurately reflects objective reality. Hence it comes with an objective test. But I'm just repeating myself.

Over and out.

I am not disputing that: I am disputing the meaning of the word objective as if my test of seeking direct information from God is not objective enough given that He is omniscient.

 

[Shantanu]

If there is a being that is worthy of being called a god, it will know what is necessary for you to believe. Therefore, it falls to that being to give you what is necessary for that to happen. If it does not happen, then either the being does not exist, or it exists but does not care whether you believe or not, or is deliberately deceiving you. Take your pick.

He gives me whatever I need to resist persecution to my satisfaction on a daily basis: He exists for me. That is all I need to know.

 

[Workman]

He gives me whatever I need to resist persecution to my satisfaction on a daily basis: He exists for me. That is all I need to know.

Good on you shantanu!
You’ve stayed faithful to your belief..
Despite all the throwing of questions!
You’ve earned well through em all!
You speak true of your concrete..
Don’t let them own yah!..you are in control of yourself..and you don’t need to PROVE nothing to anyone except to your belief.

 

[Shantanu]

Good on you shantanu!
You’ve stayed faithful to your belief..
Despite all the throwing of questions!
You’ve earned well through em all!
You speak true of your concrete..
Don’t let them own yah!..you are in control of yourself..and you don’t need to PROVE nothing to anyone except to your belief.

That is because I practice satya-advaita to chart my future. I will never say that there is no God just because what if there is a God?

 

[Workman]

That is because I practice satya-advaita to chart my future. I will never say that there is no God just because what if there is a God?

Yes!!! And those are the questions are worth living for..
where the word ‘no’ is worth..?
no sorry it’s worthless at all!

 

[blü 2]

I am not disputing that: I am disputing the meaning of the word objective as if my test of seeking direct information from God is not objective enough given that He is omniscient.

Whatever.

 

[Shantanu]

Yes!!! And those are the questions are worth living for..
where the word ‘no’ is worth..?
no sorry it’s worthless at all!

If you say that there is no God you cut off your options to seek the assistance of God for all the imponderables in your life when no human being can reliably provide that kind of assistance because no human being is to be trusted with the truth.

 

[Shantanu]

Whatever.

Do you accept that no human being of the 7.5 billion people on Earth can be trusted with the truth?

 

[blü 2]

Do you accept that no human being of the 7.5 billion people on Earth can be trusted with the truth?

The question is meaningless. There is no such single instance of "the truth", simply statements that are true.

 

[Shantanu]

The question is meaningless. There is no such single instance of "the truth", simply statements that are true.

There are two elements to the question:
(a) if you had a need for objective truth that you desire who would you ask?
(b) if you confronted humanity with the truth as you have determined from self-examination what would the response of humanity be to your assertions on the truth that you expouse?